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    6 hours ago

    People are freaking out because for years, the central dogma was to “educate yourself, that makes you special, that makes you unique, that guarantees you a prosperois economic future” and such, and now this promise is about to be broken. People are in denial: AI is a good thing.

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      I agree 100% with this. Often arguments “against” AI summarize to “it is my suffering what gave my art value, so yours has none.”

      Bro, that’s what capitalism told you. Your issue is not the “value” of AI it is the system that assigns and controls said value.

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      3 hours ago

      People are in denial: AI is a good thing.

      Not in our broken ass system. First we need an economic system where people want to, but don’t need to work.

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        That better system looks more realistic now that we can have AI and robots do nearly everything. The artificial scarcity is becoming more and more obvious.

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          Human nature is the real issue tbh. Scarcity was always the easier problem.

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      if you don’t have a job, you don’t get paid, so you lack basic things.

      if robots just did everything, and necessities (food, water, heating, cooling, etc) were free, then that would be great. unfortunately, that’s not the reality we live in right now, so of course plenty of people (including myself) don’t like AI.

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    That’s my issue with people saying stuff like “I can immediately tell when a picture is made with AI and I hate how they look”

    Your assesment doesn’t take into account all the false negatives. You have no idea how many pictures have tricked you already. By definition, the picture is badly made if you can immediately tell it’s AI. That’s a bit like seeing the most flamboyantly gay person on the street and thinking all gays look like that and you can always spot them while the closeted friend you’re with flies perfectly under the radar.

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      I recently saw a photo on some website. It was from a Trump rally, and people had these freaky, ecstatic looks on their faces. Somebody commented that it looked like AI. Other people soon agreed; one of them remarked on the bizarre, “alien” hand on one of the babies in the crowd. That hand did look weird. There were too few fingers. It looked like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle hand.

      The problem was that this image was originally from a news story that was years prior to ChatGPT and the current AI boom. For this to be AI, the photographer would’ve had to have access to experimental software that was years away from being released to the public.

      Sometimes people just look weird and, sometimes, they have weird hands, too.

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      Reminds me of all the people who believe commercials and advertising doesn’t work on them. Sure, that’s why billions are spent on it. Because it doesn’t even do anything. Oh it only works on all the other people?

      That’s why it is so hard to get that stuff regulated. People believe it doesn’t work on them.

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        That’s the real fear of AI. Not that it’s stealing art jobs or whatever. But that all it takes is for a politician or business man to claim something is AI, no matter how corroborated it is and throw the whole investigation for a loop. It’s not a thing now, because no one knows about advanced AI (except for internet bubbles) and it’s still thought that you can easily differentiate images, but imagine even 5 years from, or 10.

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      Many unedited or using old Ai images I can detect with one look. A few more I can find by looking for inconsistencies like hands or illogical items.

      However I am sure there will be more AI generated images that may even be a little bit edited afterwards that I can’t detect.

      You will need an ai to detect them. Since at least in images ai is detectable by the way they create the files.

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        9 hours ago

        In AI-generated sound you can see it in the waveform, it has less random noise altogether and it seems like a huge, well, wave. I wonder if sth similar is true for images.

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          Basically yes, lack of detail, especially small things like hair or fingers. The texture/definition in AI images is usually less. Though, once again, depends on the technique being used.

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    As a visually impaired person on the internet. YES! welcome to our world!

    You’re lucky enough to get an image description that helpfully describes the image.

    That description rarely tells you if it’s AI generated, that’s if the description writer even knows themselves.

    Everyone in the comments saying “look at the hands, that’s AI generated”, and I’m sitting here thinking, I just have to trust the discussion, because that image, just like every other image I’ve ever seen, is hard to fully decipher visually, let alone look for evidence of AI.

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        Honestly, auto generating text descriptions for visually impaired people is probably one of the few potential good uses for LLM + CLIP. Being able to have a brief but accurate description without relying on some jackass to have written it is a bonefied good thing. It isn’t even eliminating anyone’s job since the jackass doesn’t always do it in the first place.

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          The models that do that now are very capable but aren’t tuned properly IMO. They are overly flowery and sickly positive even when describing something plain. Prompting them to be more succinct only has them cut themselves off and leave out important things. But I can totally see that improving soon.

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          I am so sorry, and i agree with your point, but i really had a good laugh at my mental image of a bonefied good thing :-)

          If you know already or it’s autocorrect, just ignore me, if not, it’s bona fide :-)

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        They exist but none of them are perfect - they can’t possibly be perfect. It’s a bit of an arms race thing where AI images get more accurate and the detection software get more particular to match, however the economic incentives are on the side of the former.

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      I’ve never seen a good answer to this in accessibility guides, would you mind making a recommendation? Is there any preferred alt text for something like:

      • “clarification image with an arrow pointing at object”
      • “Picture of a butt selfie, it’s completely black”
      • “Picture of a table with nothing on it”
      • “example of lens flare shown from camera”
      • “N/A” dangerous

      Sometimes an image is clearly only useful as a visual aid, I feel like “” (exluding it) makes people feel like they are missing the joke. But given it’s an accessibility tool; unneeded details may waste your time.