Ukraine sacks army recruitment chiefs in anti-graft shakeup
www.reuters.com
President Volodymyr Zelenskiy broadened his battle against graft on Friday, firing all the heads of Ukraine's regional army recruitment centres as the war with Russia enters a critical stage.
  • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
    97·
    1 year ago

    I knew from reading the headline that Hexbear’s horde of mouthbreathers would show up to brigade and spread their propaganda. Sure enough, here we are

    Edit: You guys really are just proving my point lmao

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      65·
      1 year ago

      federation isn’t brigading. a post shows up in our feeds, we click on it and comment because helping people dodge the draft is cool and good. We’re one of the largest instances, and the consensus we have on issues like “conscription is bad” should not be taken as coordination on the part of hexbear users. If we did deliberately coordinate we’d all link you clowns to the thread where we did it because it would be funny.

      • tellah@sh.itjust.works
        22·
        1 year ago

        No but it’s weird that I never see any comments supporting Ukraine from hexbear users. Like the country was invaded, there is evidence of massive human rights atrocities. It is beyond the pale that so many people would just coincidentally celebrate every piece of bad news for the people being invaded and spin everything negatively against them. One would expect some diversity of opinions from any reasonably large instance but hexbear users all act like pro-russian trolls.

        • TomBombadil [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          43·
          1 year ago

          Trump is funny. Obviously. Terrible but hilarious. We don’t back Russia we just understand NATO to generally be far more destructive and deadly. That’s just old Tom Bombadilaros thoughts.

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          31·
          1 year ago

          Because Russia is the same as America in pretty much every way. So it is fascist infighting. Trump is also the same as pretty much the same as every other president. Liberals just hate him for idiosyncratic reasons. So it is funny

          • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Russia is America’s every bad quality dialed up to 12 on steroids. Russia actually manages to make America look good, that’s just what a steaming pile of garbage Russia is. The bar is so low even America can get over it.

            • charlie [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              14·
              1 year ago

              NATO - starts wars and keeps the meat grinder rolling all in the furtherance of capitalist dogma - you sleep

              Russia - literally just exists - you wake

              NATO’s #1 export is war and that’s why NATO is hated around the world. Y’all just give people more reason to hate NATO.

              • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                Russia starting a war with 350,000 casualties and threatening to nuke the West is not literally just existing. If Russia wanted to literally just exist, they never would have literally invaded another country while lying about “training exercises”.

                You’re pro-Russian terrorism, it’s not a good look.

                • charlie [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  NATO encircled a world power and for the last couple decades have worked to instigate a war that has led to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people on the gamble that Russia would fall and allow the west to loot the country, exactly as they plan to loot a war torn Ukraine. For capitalism.

                  You’re pro-NATO terrorism, it’s not a good look.

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    That’s pure speculation.

                    You literally have to create a fantasy about NATO doing something in the future to justify Russia actually doing evil things right now.

                    Being pro imaginary terrorism is way better than being pro real terrorism.

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        30·
        1 year ago

        Every wonder why this kind of liberal belief never just naturally develops in new communities like ours? Notice how they always have to insert themselves from outside and takeover modding to have any relevance? Yeah, that.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      40·
      1 year ago

      If you’re so eager to defend a military conscription/draft, why don’t you go and fight on the frontline yourself? This whole article is about Zelenskyy cracking down on Ukrainian citizens avoiding the conscription because they don’t want to be sent into the meat grinder that is the heavily fortified front lines.

      It’s always those that face the least consequences from war that are the most eager for it to continue.

      • Twink [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        1 year ago

        They’re happy to have eastern men die forced into it and were probably the same people happy to shame them for trying to flee not to die. I’m so heartbroken for the androcide so happily encouraged by libs. I’ve seen gross comments from lib men how they will be happy to take over Ukrainian windows. Their kind is rotten to the core. :(

      • erik@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Oh the tired arguments of ruzzians.

        This is about cracking down on leaders who haven’t thrown out leaders under them who have been corrupt.

        This is a good thing.

        And that whole argument: why aren’t you on the frontlines is so tired, and didn’t make sense in the first place.

        Who wants an old Norwegian who barely knows both Russian and Ukrainian on the frontlines when he can be at home financing drones and telling his government to step up support?

    • Onimasta [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      37·
      1 year ago

      Oh man, that brings me back to the days when r/cth used to brigade other subs. Those were the times.

      Never thought I’d live long enough to see it again…

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        43·
        1 year ago

        The best part was that it was always just the fact we were all terminally online and saw the same frontpage threads as everyone else. It was (almost) never an actual brigade, just the result of having a bunch of very active posters with better politics than the average redditor. That’s all it took to make the worst people on reddit pit over being unable to consistently silence people with better opinions than their own.

          • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            7·
            1 year ago

            My minority, lgbtqia+, suffers daily in Russia

            I’m going to let someone more educated on the geopolitics involved handle the rest of this (hopefully someone will) but i really want to zero in on this because.

            there are like, 2 cishet people on all of Hexbear. Its like the most queer space on the internet thats not explicitly only for queer people… It is AGRESSIVLY pro-trans, and purged the slightest hints of transphobia in its early days. The admin team is 100% queer i’m pretty sure.

            We think the oppression of queer people in Russia is bad. Whatever support an individual Hexbear has for Russia, its not for Putin’s regime or the Russian government. It is, as you yourself say, opposition to NATO. Again, I’m not going to get into the why of that, but please don’t imply that we support the Russian government’s oppression of queer people.

              • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                5·
                1 year ago

                What do you think critical support means?

                It’s unironically the unsafest safe space I’ve ever encountered.

                If that’s really true, you may well be the most sheltered person on earth.

                  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    4·
                    1 year ago

                    Spare me the self-righteousness, if “the people I was rude too were rude back to me” is something you can describe as “the most unsafe space I have ever encountered” without feeling deeply embarrassed, then you have no business trying to pontificate about what actually marginalised people endure. No amount of cope about how you’re totally definitely not big mad, but your girlfriend in Canada is, will change that.

                    English isn’t my first language but elaborate how “Russia needs our critical support” isn’t a support of Russia.

                    So you didn’t know what it meant, but you used it to insult someone anyway?

                    It means support from a place of criticism, in the sense of “I don’t agree with them in general, but align on certain things”.

                    Look, I’ll back up a bit and try to be more sincere here. There are three points I would like you to consider. The first is that your own behaviour has not exactly been free of toxicity. The second is that we on hexbear are used to liberals coming in with naked bad faith hostility, so we’ve, unfortunately fallen to the habit of responding in kind. This leads into my third point; the hostility you describe sounds basically like the bog standard normal that I’ve experienced when trying to converse in mainstream liberal spaces; Hexbear is one of the few spaces where I’m not showered with abuse for the crime of having a political alignment outside the overton window of a country I’m not even from.

              • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Sounds like someone else has already explained the critical support thing to you, I didnt really understand the term at first either and English IS my first language, so I actually understand this one.

                I hope you can see that my comrade’s defensive stance is because of past experiances and not anything personal.

                I actually dont disagree that people here sometimes make unfair assumptions about the person they’re talking to. I remember the human and understand where they’re coming from and why that assume that though (past experiences with people who are like that). I wish my friends would try to remember the human more too, but I get why they can forget because of their experiences. I hope that makes sense.

                  • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    3·
                    1 year ago

                    I can actually understand all that very well. Sorry about your negative experience

                    I do want to mention one thing though

                    it’s this that made me consider your community dangerous, especially for minority groups.

                    Our “weaponized anger” is quiet frequently used in defense of minority groups, particularly trans people. She’s gone now but one of our original admins, TransComrade69, was militantly defensive of trans people and it really shaped how our community formed. We also do our best to do the same for other queer people, bipoc, the disabled and nuerodiverse, women, the poor, and (most relevant to the arguments we get into here) people from the global south.

                    But I actually do understand how our community’s stance can be offputting for some people and wouldnt recommend it to just anyone, even leftists.

    • Murvel@lemm.ee
      14·
      1 year ago

      I’ve been interacting with them recently to see what they are all about and lmao I don’t think I’ve ever had a dumber discussion in my life. Truly they are uniquely stupid.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        42·
        1 year ago

        “Opposing military conscription is stupid” and other hot takes from westerners that have never had to fight a war at home.

        How is it stupid to oppose Zelenskyy’s suicidal conscription polices? It makes Russia’s mobilisation/conscription look pacifist by comparison.

        • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          19·
          1 year ago

          If you pop into that users history, you’ll see that the interacting they’re talking about is whining at me for a couple of days because I called them a racist.

          • Murvel@lemm.ee
            1·
            1 year ago

            Not really. You just use the word ‘racist’ as a general insult to people who disagree with you. I don’t really take it as an offense since it means nothing in that context, but using the word ‘racist’ ignoring its actual meaning is problematic.

              • Murvel@lemm.ee
                1·
                1 year ago

                Because mongrel is not a racial slur. You made it a racial slur. I could argue that the word Bastard is a racial slur by the same logic. And given enough time and effort, you would believe it if all you see is race.

                  • Murvel@lemm.ee
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    All you need to know is that it was not used with a racist intent. The word itself was not even used in a context where it could be interpreted as racist. I mean, can you even answer which group of people the word was racist against based on your interpretation?

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            24·
            1 year ago

            Negotiations? It’s clear after the attempt at a “counter offensive” that Ukraine do not have the ability to gain any significant territory, and they are just throwing lives and equipment into a void of mines and trenches. And Ukraine is not going to gain the ability to break though these fortifications anytime soon, I cannot see western nations giving Ukraine the weaponry required (an air force is the main missing component needed for NATO style combined arms tactics to function).

            Unless Ukraine can find a way to convince western nations to give them the equipment required to make breakthroughs (very unlikely), they are stuck in an attrition war with Russia. And I don’t see any path to victory in an attrition war against Russia. The article we are commenting on is one of the major reasons why, they’re having to fire people just to get more conscripts. At that point, negotiation is the best possible outcome.

        • erik@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, why not let Hitler Putler occupy us?

          I mean: how bad can it be?

          /s

              • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                10·
                1 year ago

                Tell me one thing Hitlers regime did that Putins regime hasn’t done

                The Holocaust.

                Russians are almost just like (thankfully) dumb

                Generalizing Russians and instead of Putin’s regime AND calling them stupid. Not racist at all.

                • erik@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  So easy to beat someone when you leave out half the sentence:

                  I wrote “Tell me one thing Hitlers regime did that Putins regime hasn’t done on a smaller scale”.

                  And yes, Putin hasn’t done the holocaust, because they thankfully aren’t well enough organized to do that.

                  The rhetoric is there as I already mentioned. The smaller scale “disappearances” of civilians Nacht und Nebel style and experiments on larger scale exterminations like Olevnika are there.

                  Word plays won’t get you anywhere.

                  And if it it racist to point out that Putins regime is evil but thankfully dumb then so be it.

                  Someone would probably tried to arrest me for hate speak against the nazis too.

    • UFO@programming.dev
      6·
      1 year ago

      My cats have learned the wirr motor sound of the feeder means food. So they’ll run from whereever in the house at an motor sound. Suddenly like “it’s food time right? Right? But the noise means food…” Regardless of any further context.

      Same same but different with hexbear.