Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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      Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

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        Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

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          If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that’s part of the problem. There’s elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

          Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we’d actually see some effective change.

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            The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

            Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run

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              The president sure gets the credit for a lot of things (the president signed this into law, the president enacted this policy) but in reality Congress makes most of that a reality.

              There is also accountability… but only if the congress acts on it. Which is where that whole “vote more than once every four years” thing comes in. Congress has power… we just have not elected people who use that power responsibly.

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                We’ve also managed to wedge ourselves into a situation where Congress can’t handle anything controversial. The closest we came in recent years was the (relatively timid) ACA, and that barely passed after an unpopular war and the 2008 economic crash.

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              The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

              so then go and push/vote for voting reform, federally and more importantly at a state level, shit like IRV is very much within reach.

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            Elections that can affect things on a national level are still only once every two years. I vote in every election but going off on people who vote for but doing it often enough is just stupid.

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              Yes, but those state and local elections have an effect both on how your state and local area does… as well as how those national elections are held. They are far more important than you give them credit for.

              Don’t downplay them just because they don’t get national coverage, especially when they’re going to have significantly more impact on your daily life.

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          Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

          Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

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          All candidates steer clear away from condemning Israel because they know they’ll lose votes if they do. Sounds like this one is on the people.

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        wait ok, i’m confused why do we hate the US government? Is it because it’s doing global geopolitics shit? Like what’s the motive for caring about this, as opposed to like, stopping world hunger.

        Like the motive for the latter is obvious, but i don’t really see the motive for the former. It just seems like yelling at a vast brick wall for no reason.

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      Looking at the protests against him in Israel I think many if not most Israelis don’t want this campaign of violence. For many years I’ve felt sorry for all the civilians in that area, because they are trying to live their lives and extremist assholes on all sides keep killing them.

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          They are against his government in general and started before his campaign of terror and I have seen no poll that would suggest sudden approval. So we can safely assume the protesters include that in their disapproval of him and his government of fascist cunts.

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            The protests happened after but they don’t seem to advocate a change in that campaign of terror, just different people carrying it out. The far right dominates Israeli politics and it’s all about which flavor of far right is preferred.

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                  What is your point? That all Israelis fully support the wholesale slaughter the IDF is committing? It seems so weird and pointless to continue to argue about this.

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                    I responded to someone claiming that there have been protests against this campaign of violence. It’s useful to know where everybody stands to know who would be willing to move toward peace.