• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    Biden instantly sending 8 Billion dollars in weapons really says it all. The US is planning to let Netanyahu bomb everything he wants. When they strike back in kind the US will use it as a pretense send in troops to start a war with Iran.

    A smart move by Netanyahu. He knows he needs to get rid of Iran or they will outpace Israel. Now that Israel fully controls America this is the time to start their war with Iran with impunity.

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      Everything the US does starts to make sense when you realize the US government is fully owned by lobbyists and wealthy donors. The Military Industrial Complex is a trillion dollar for-profit industry with the deepest pockets in the world. The capitalists who profit from it effectively own our country.

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      Israel does not “fully control” America (literally an antisemitic conspiracy theory).

      It is literally the other way around: The US controls Israel and has the power to make them stop their genocide but chooses to send them more waepons to use for more war crimes.

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        I really don’t like french cheese. Am I racist with the french for that?

        I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?

        I understand some antisemitic may use war as a way to spread their idepology but the opposite is not true.

        One person may disagree with the geopolic of this war without having any issue with the citizens of a country involved

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          I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?

          Doesn’t Germany have the largest population of all EU countries? It makes sense that the country with the largest population and largest economy might also have more influence than lower population countries.

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          I really don’t like french cheese. Am I racist with the french for that?

          No

          I really think that Germany has too much power over EU. Does this make me racist with Germans?

          Germany is the country with the most seats in the EU parliament. The influence of germany is not a conspiracy theory, but a fact, therefore: No

          Are Israeli politicians members of congress ? Or the house ? Ok, so maybe the comparison is bullshit.

          One person may disagree with the geopolic of this war without having any issue with the citizens of a country involved

          Yes, correct.

          Not sure what that has to do with the fact that America is on the side of genocide of its own free will instead of being secretly controlled by Israel into being on the side of genocide 🤷

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      They don’t fully control America though. Most of us didn’t even realize the actual situation until this year. The Palestinians just got lumped in under terrorism and that was that. The new media exposure is turning that around. If you look at our response to apartheid in South Africa it’s tracking pretty closely. The halls of power didn’t want to care and the people forced them to care.

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        One day before the bombing of Nasrallah (with advance knowledge and US cooperation). But after Israel started their recent Lebanon bombing campaign.

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    The companies making military weapons and gear for Israel can be found here according to AFSC.

    The US has committed grants to Israel to buy weapons through 2028. It’s benefiting the above corporations. While not all US based, it still is just another example of our corporate overlords fiucking the world over for profits).

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      Is there somewhere they are separated by country? Would be helpful to people who want to know what they should demonstrate against in their country.

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      And why not? He has virtually unlimited U.S. weapons as well as bi-partisan support from U.S. politicians. It’s as though we’re just setting our attack dog loose on everyone.

      It’s fucking astonishing that we have any relationship with Israel at all these days. The U.S. gets absolutely nothing out of this one-sided relationship.

      Israel offers us:

      -No unique strategic military position (we have that area covered already).

      -No high-value industrial benefits (no natural resources or unique trade).

      -No military arsenal or manpower support (their arsenal comes from us and their personnel is quite limited).

      It’s time to let them make friends with their neighbors on their own. They don’t need us to do that and we sure as fuck don’t need them.

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        Hacking and Blackmail are Israeli strengths. The two most common theories I hear are that that elected officials are impressed with the Israeli hacking capabilities and rather keep them on our side, or they are actively exploiting those capabilities to bend politicians to their will. Seeing how Israel operates in public with innocent civilians it seems rather obvious our predicament.

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          The problem with hacking and intelligence is they’re vulnerable to hard power. In other words you can hack stuff but you’re not going to hack your way out of Delta raiding your office. If Israel is using their hacking and intelligence to blackmail politicians then they’re constantly one fuck away from “find out”.

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        The US is a parent sitting and watching its problem child beat the shit out of the other children in the playpark. Other concerned parents keep asking the US to do something, to which they shrug and say “kids will be kids, what can you do” while handing their child a knuckleduster.

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        Unfortunately, as long as we leave political offices to be filled by the worst of us this will continue. Voting is only half the battle.

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        Main thing the US gets from Israel is Market Capital Export.

        Israel accounts for what, like 30-40% of all recent American acquired startups?

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          Do you have a source for this?

          My understanding is the primary trade between the U.S and Israel is diamonds. We each export over $1B worth of diamonds and also each import over $1B worth of diamonds between one another. In the past year, the U.S. imported about half a billion dollars more from Israel than it exported to Israel (again mostly diamonds in both directions).

          The diamond trade between our countries does not justify our participation in unnecessary wars (or genocides) in my opinion. It seems unlikely to be the reason we are so committed to this relationship. I think AIPAC’s financial involvement in our elections represents a much bigger reason we support Israel.

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    Reagab stopped them from doing this exact same thing 40 years ago. Anyone still gonna say this administration isn’t more Zionist than usual?