• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    1. Destroy Power Substations
    2. ???
    3. ???
    4. ???
    5. Race War!

    I think there are a few critical steps in the middle that are missing, there. Fuckmunchery aside, how did this person expect that blacking out Baltimore would somehow magically trigger a race war?

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      It is widely understood in the white supremacy community that this would happen. But they are a bunch of fucking dipshits.

      Molly Conger has an excellent podcast that highlights people like this called “Weird Little Guys”. This tactic is mentioned in like 50% of episodes.

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      This is a weirdly commonly held belief among far right accelerationists. They think that the race war is inevitable, and if there is enough social disruption, social order will break down, people will turn to the militias, and guess who runs the militias?

      The US electrical grid is shockingly vulnerable. Transfer stations can be disabled from a distance by rifle fire. There is no practical way to guard or physically secure every single one. A disabled transfer station has the potential to cause a cascade failure that could cause catastrophic failure of the grid. The USA has just three grids, Eastern, Western, and Texas. So terrorists have figured that attacking the power grid is the easiest way to cause maximum disruption with a single bullet.

      The thing is, each of the grids has failed in the past, and while there was some disruption for a couple days, there has never been a social breakdown. The other thing is that the dummies who plan these attacks keep getting caught before they can do any damage.

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        Securing the substation itself is easy you just build a cinder block wall around it put a roof on it and then alarm it. You put up cameras in hire ADT to look after it

        The problem is once you do that they can then go after transmission lines.

        These people need to be infiltrated and run in as terrorists.

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          Oh, absolutely. I’m sure that they are infiltrated, which is why they keep getting caught. If you and I can figure out what they are up to, then I’m guessing the FBI and all their fun toys know what’s up.

          They have evidence against all of them, but it’s better to wait until they can really put them away for a long time.

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      We don’t know why someone hit Metcalf and that was over a decade ago.

      Reposting a comment from a few months ago:

      Was just worrying if we were due for one of these:

      Over the course of 19 minutes, about one hundred bullets caused $15 million dollars in damage to our power grid, damaging components that take months to manufacture: 2013’s Metcalf sniper attack near San Jose, California

      A second incident, 2022

      Moore County, NC: Gunmen shot up two power substations. 40K customers lost power. Took days to fix. FBI had warned about extremist threats to grid. Investigators found shell casings, offered $75K reward. Theories: anti-drag show motive or generic extremism. One lady died when her oxygen machine stopped (homicide). Schools closed, curfew imposed. NC governor pissed. White House “monitoring.”

      If terrorists were testing our response time or something, they would’ve acted on a large scale by now right? I kinda need to always be able to charge my PC/phone soooo

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      Given how the crazies are going at the moment I’ll try and fill in some of the gaps

      1. Destroy power substations
      2. Eat the cats, eat the dogs
      3. Grift through a GoFundMe
      4. ???
      5. Race war!
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      There’s not much to it. They simply believe that as the strife causes conflict over resources the factions will “naturally” align along racial lines. They also believe that people “naturally” cohabitate better within their own race.

      This does require ignoring all of human history and the brutal conflicts that have occurred within racially homogenous regions. But I’d never accuse white supremacists of being intelligent or genuine.

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      Power goes out, people start doing dumb things for profit or survival, people get wronged by those actions and respond with violence, violence begets violence, fear grows, paranoia grows, violence becomes more likely with less provocation, welcome the lord of the flies to the concrete jungle.

      The national guard would get called in and martial law would happen before the tribal wars could really kick off but there would be racially motivated violence all the same, as is tradition.

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        But this assumes that people in survival or emergency situations are only going to look for themselves. In fact, in almost every emergency situation where there’s been a breakdown of emergency infrastructure, the exact opposite happens - it just doesn’t get reported on by the big outlets.

        After Katrina, for instance, you heard “oh there was a huge rape and murder pit in the Superdome” on several news outlets. The​ Superdome was actually used by survivors as an ad-hoc camp, and the only armed people there were making sure people DIDN’T get hurt like that. People with boats went on sorties into the flooded city to get people back to the Superdome, where they had food and cots and medical care. The only real “looting” was for medical supplies, food, and things to help people SURVIVE, not luxury goods, and many tried not to scavenge in areas or businesses that couldn’t take it - Walmart could deal with a couple dozen missing sleeping bags, small businesses in the area would definitely miss that medication though.

        It turns out humanity, in an emergency situation, left to their own devices, GENERALLY will choose to help other people first rather than hurting them. Research has shown that this will to help is fairly deep-seated in most people, and it tends to fall apart when societal pressure is reapplied - in the case of Katrina, that camp fell apart pretty soon after the National Guard and police started shooting anyone who was “looting”, no matter what they were taking.

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        the national guard would arrive in the 10-20,000 group size fully armed and positioned within 72 hours, anywhere in the US. every vehicle and phone in the area fully tracked and cross referenced.

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          They would trickle in, securing based on priority and needs, coming to full deployment in 72 hours. Problems after grid failure would manifest in hours. The Nasty Girls wouldn’t be in place fast enough to stop everything, but they would be ready before things could get near the racists’ wet dream.

          Obviously, the single celled intelligence of overnight race war instigators can’t plan anything more complex than when to breathe next; so they can’t possibly fathom the real world series of events that would follow their fantasy big-brain master plans.

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      Those people aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. No point trying to find out what “logic” they were trying to follow. There is none.

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      Yea, I’ve thought about what I’d do to my neighbor, but we have power for now so I won’t. Power better not go out though.