Did anyone actually watch the video? She’s upset that neither side represent what she deems acceptable.
She’s young and doesn’t understand that government doesn’t get fixed in a day. Where we are is the result of influence from corporate stooges since Reagan. It’s come to a boiling point and I understand her frustration. A vote for Harris is a vote for steering the ship towards what she deems is acceptable, but that ship sails slower than a lot people can understand.
She’s not that young, she’s been doing music for a decade and working service jobs till now. And you can understand something and still feel it is unacceptable.
Doing something for a decade IS a long time, but that isn’t your point. She has plenty experience in singing and being a pop star. She is still young. 26 is young.
It doesn’t mean you should dismiss their opinion about everything, but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. She seems to be fixated on perfect and missing the march toward good.
After what she pulled today in NY, it’s clearly not about age. It’s about maturity. She’s clearly not ready to handle the spotlight and isn’t emotionally very mature.
It’s what you do with your life, not how long you lived it, that matters when it comes to life experience. I’ve lived enough to draw a parallel to the following quote:
Men like this infantilize women, so women (they believe) will not have the confidence to leave them. They want to keep their wives, if not barefoot and pregnant, at least without the skills and confidence needed to have a career that could support them well. Similarly, at work, they define their secretary’s role as part mother, part wife, so
they always will be taken care of. Finally, they are so dependent upon the regard of their male colleagues, bosses, and oftentimes even their subordinates, that they will violate their own sense of ethics rather than face the possibility of not being one of “the boys.”
I agree with the core of what you’re saying except I disagree that she “doesn’t understand” how slowly politics works. I think her decision to vote for Harris anyway speaks to that kind of understanding, else she’d endorse a third-party candidate/write-in in a poor attempt to speed-run democracy.
She’s been getting a lot of hate for not endorsing Harris and people fail to realize the difference between endorsing and voting. Her entire point is that the government can’t be fixed in a day. Voting for Harris is the obvious choice but her being in office isn’t going to magically solve all our problems.
Abortion was illegal for 70-120 years depending on the state. It was 50ish years from the progressive era and the beginning of birth control to the ruling of Roe. Overturning roe was a 50 year political project by the right.
Yeah I get it. I was young once and I’ve even had to have the bitter realization that even Revolution neither happens in a day nor resolves anything quickly. I ask for the passion of the young to hold hands with the wisdom of us older folks. It’s easy to demand sudden change, and important too, but building bases of power are important.
Vote for Kamala then hold her feet to the fire. Vote in every primary. Discuss what you think with people around you when it comes up, I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work. Build the support and make those maga losers afraid to show their faces.
And entertainers can do so much. Cobain got people who wouldn’t otherwise thinking of homophobia as uncool for example
Kamala isn’t in the correct direction at all though. The democratic party serves to delay progress in favor of the Republican party. There’s a reason they lie so much and confuse and refuse to address issues progressive voters want to address. It’s not gonna get better unless people stop voting for the same “lesser evil” presented to them and pushed to them in the media.
It’s not going to get better under Trump either, and your ballot has more choices than President on it. I’m sure you volunteered for local progressive campaigns, right?
In the American elections you can definitely vote in.
This is either some wild optimism or accelerationism.
Gay rights activists got started in the 1970’s and in the 80’s they got homosexuality taken off the list of mental disorders and in the 90’s it looked like Hawaii was going to legalize same sex marriage and then the conservatives took notice and passed the defense of marriage act and Bill Clinton signed it (yes, a Democrat) and then Iowa and Massachusetts courts legalized it at the state level in the 00’s and for 10 years we watched court cases and ballot measures go state by state and then in 2014 we got obergefell.
Republicans did not get us marriage equality, Democrats did. Republicans opposed it at every step. Even obergefel would not have happened if Clinton had not won and picked some SC justices. Clinton had a Republican house and Senate and he was more concerned with avoiding a government shutdown. Defense of marriage act was a Republican bill. Don’t ask don’t tell was a compromise with Republicans. Obama repealed don’t ask don’t tell after Dems took the white house and both houses of Congress.
It matters who is in charge, every year, every election. And the Republican hasn’t been the progressive option since teddy Roosevelt left the Republicans to form the bull moose party.
So acting like we need to punish the Democrats for not opposing netanyahu by electing Republicans is literally throwing Palestinians and poc and queer people and poor people under the bus for your own self rightiousness.
Did anyone actually watch the video? She’s upset that neither side represent what she deems acceptable.
She’s young and doesn’t understand that government doesn’t get fixed in a day. Where we are is the result of influence from corporate stooges since Reagan. It’s come to a boiling point and I understand her frustration. A vote for Harris is a vote for steering the ship towards what she deems is acceptable, but that ship sails slower than a lot people can understand.
She’s not that young, she’s been doing music for a decade and working service jobs till now. And you can understand something and still feel it is unacceptable.
She’s 26. That’s fairly young for a voter. Not really sure what her cv has to do with being considered old.
Service industry work can build wisdom.
Idk about wisdom but I can attest to a speedy loss in faith of the human population.
Some would say that can be the same thing.
You’re so young that you think doing something for a decade is a long time.
Doing anything for a decade is a long time. That’s 1/7th of an American’s life span and 1/8th of a developed humans life span.
UN life expectancy at birth in USA: 79.30 years
UN life expectancy at birth in EU: 81.50 years
UN life expectancy at birth in Hong Kong (world #1): 85.51 years
Doing something for a decade IS a long time, but that isn’t your point. She has plenty experience in singing and being a pop star. She is still young. 26 is young.
It doesn’t mean you should dismiss their opinion about everything, but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. She seems to be fixated on perfect and missing the march toward good.
After what she pulled today in NY, it’s clearly not about age. It’s about maturity. She’s clearly not ready to handle the spotlight and isn’t emotionally very mature.
I would agree with you. I don’t have any knowledge about it, but you seem like you know who she is.
It’s what you do with your life, not how long you lived it, that matters when it comes to life experience. I’ve lived enough to draw a parallel to the following quote:
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I agree with the core of what you’re saying except I disagree that she “doesn’t understand” how slowly politics works. I think her decision to vote for Harris anyway speaks to that kind of understanding, else she’d endorse a third-party candidate/write-in in a poor attempt to speed-run democracy.
She’s been getting a lot of hate for not endorsing Harris and people fail to realize the difference between endorsing and voting. Her entire point is that the government can’t be fixed in a day. Voting for Harris is the obvious choice but her being in office isn’t going to magically solve all our problems.
The problem is she’s trying to bring nuance to a bumper sticker platform.
I’m old and I’m still waiting for the government to be fixed.
Abortion was illegal for 70-120 years depending on the state. It was 50ish years from the progressive era and the beginning of birth control to the ruling of Roe. Overturning roe was a 50 year political project by the right.
Sometimes it takes a lifetime.
Yeah I get it. I was young once and I’ve even had to have the bitter realization that even Revolution neither happens in a day nor resolves anything quickly. I ask for the passion of the young to hold hands with the wisdom of us older folks. It’s easy to demand sudden change, and important too, but building bases of power are important.
Vote for Kamala then hold her feet to the fire. Vote in every primary. Discuss what you think with people around you when it comes up, I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work. Build the support and make those maga losers afraid to show their faces.
And entertainers can do so much. Cobain got people who wouldn’t otherwise thinking of homophobia as uncool for example
Ugh, train people are the worst. WE GET IT, YOU LIKE TRAINS.
Edit: I genuinely thought this was a typo and they meant “pro-trans.” But maybe they actually did mean “trains.”
I’m not cis passing enough to be openly talking trans issues at work. Nah I talk public transit. Shit like replacing air travel with high speed rail.
I also misread your comment as pro-trans, but we DO need more trains! So keep bringing it up, you are doing good work.
Yeah I hope cis people will speak up for me. I’ll speak up for public transport, it’s what engineers should be doing.
If it makes it better I’m also annoying about other infrastructure. Dams are excellent
Kamala isn’t in the correct direction at all though. The democratic party serves to delay progress in favor of the Republican party. There’s a reason they lie so much and confuse and refuse to address issues progressive voters want to address. It’s not gonna get better unless people stop voting for the same “lesser evil” presented to them and pushed to them in the media.
It’s not going to get better under Trump either, and your ballot has more choices than President on it. I’m sure you volunteered for local progressive campaigns, right?
In the American elections you can definitely vote in.
This is either some wild optimism or accelerationism.
Gay rights activists got started in the 1970’s and in the 80’s they got homosexuality taken off the list of mental disorders and in the 90’s it looked like Hawaii was going to legalize same sex marriage and then the conservatives took notice and passed the defense of marriage act and Bill Clinton signed it (yes, a Democrat) and then Iowa and Massachusetts courts legalized it at the state level in the 00’s and for 10 years we watched court cases and ballot measures go state by state and then in 2014 we got obergefell.
Republicans did not get us marriage equality, Democrats did. Republicans opposed it at every step. Even obergefel would not have happened if Clinton had not won and picked some SC justices. Clinton had a Republican house and Senate and he was more concerned with avoiding a government shutdown. Defense of marriage act was a Republican bill. Don’t ask don’t tell was a compromise with Republicans. Obama repealed don’t ask don’t tell after Dems took the white house and both houses of Congress.
It matters who is in charge, every year, every election. And the Republican hasn’t been the progressive option since teddy Roosevelt left the Republicans to form the bull moose party.
So acting like we need to punish the Democrats for not opposing netanyahu by electing Republicans is literally throwing Palestinians and poc and queer people and poor people under the bus for your own self rightiousness.
Are you significantly older than Chappell Roan? Because I’m imagining you’re the one who doesn’t understand something.