• Sundial@lemm.ee
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    I love how reporting things like this generates downvotes on the topic even though OP took the time to paste actual screenshots proving it to be true.

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      I downvoted it because it’s not Onion-y as described in community rule 4:

      would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

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        I mean call me crazy but I feel like a minister from a country trying to justify why he doesn’t see internationally recognized countries as actual countries is pretty Onion-y to me. The icing on top is that it’s coming from a minister in a country known for illegally stealing land and re-defining their own borders against international law.

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            I get where you’re coming from but if we follow that logic then majority of the posts on this community about Trump and his MAGA fanatics would be disqualified. Just because ridiculous is the norm for these people doesn’t mean we stop calling it out.

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              tbf, Trump says a lot more random, off-the-wall shit than Israel does. Israel isn’t very random, much more cold and calculated. Not very satire-like.

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                Israel isn’t very random, much more cold and calculated. Not very satire-like.

                That’s not what the purpose of this community though. The purpose is to have headlines that can pass as a satirical one from The Onion at first glance. To me this fits the definition.

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                  If you say so. To me that requires an expectation that this would be unusual, something that would catch the eye as notable, instead of just being perfectly in-line with the norms of the time.

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        That is fair, although if you read some of the newest Onion articles it definitely sounds like them.

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      those statements don’t prove anything, they just express his opinion on why those Arab states shouldn’t be considered countries, which is disputed by the overwhelming number of other countries who recognize those governments.

      Israel does have a problem that a good chunk of their neighbors deny their right to exist. I’m not smart enough to know how to solve the problem, but I do know the solution is not “No, U”.

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        Whether or not he proves anything is irrelevant. This is a minister of a country coming out and saying other countries don’t technically exist because he thinks so (and his logic is pretty dam stupid as well). It’s a pretty ridiculous and weird stance to take.

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        damn, why do my neighbors dislike me? it totally can’t be years and years of apartheid, annexations, conquest, and targeted destabilization

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    Welp, regardless of the very real issues in these countries, this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that precedes an invasion, as it did when Putin started publicly questioning Ukraine’s status as a country. This helps cement my assessment that Israel is going to go for a larger land grab with the pretext of building a buffer zone for the protection of its citizens.

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      Israel be going down down to nazi town really quick. You know what they say, you either die a hero…

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        still going? i thought they made it when they started spouting blood and soil, 14 words, “Gaza animals”, etc…

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        I dont know when they were a hero. The IDF was designated terrorist organization from the start.

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          But you can make a moral argument fot their terrorism against (former) Nazis in (more or less) hiding in my opinion.

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    He’s technically correct according to some schools of international politics.

    But he’s saying this to casually connect Iran to a declaration of war on Israel. In all that blab he casually infers Hezbollah is an Iranian military unit and it declared war on October 8th. Which creates the question of a casus belli against Iran.

    This is a propaganda technique where stuff like this is mentioned in passing by a bunch of different people. Our full attention is on the idea that he’s delegitimizing the surrounding countries. But that other bit slips past and if we hear something over and over without questioning it we can actually internalize it.

    So that’s kind of scary to think about.

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    They’re not going to stop land grabbing…

    As long as they think America has their back. They’ll keep going.

    And Biden has spent over 50 years saying he’ll always support them no matter what.

    That geriatric old fuck needs out of office now. We can’t wait for January and he’s clearly lost all his marbles or he’d be the candidate.

    There is real life shit going on and Biden has shown time and time again. He’s just not capable of handling it

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      I mean it is the same with Putin, saying Ukraine is not a real country, he is not going to stop at Ukraine. Something similar might happen in Armenia too, things are becoming ugly.

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        Biden is stuck with what life was like 70 years ago. Russia was the bad guys then so he treats them as the bad guys now at least.

        But he’s gone on record saying his support of Israel is due to a promise he made his dad when he was six years old.

        He’s just flat out not looking at things logically, it’s a joke that we’re still pretending he’s capable of running the country when he’s obviously not

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          I am honestly not sure if it is Biden’s decision after I saw how cooked his brains were. More likely he just read whatever his party/vice president decided.

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      Do you honestly think the people running for office are capable of “handling” this any differently?

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    Does Israel really have a monopoly on power? Don’t they have huge numbers of settler militia types out there attacking Palestinians and driving them from their lands?

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      It is the US that has the military power. Israel has already tried going into Lebanon before and failed, so I think if they do it they must be pretty confident that America will come to their aid.

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    The eventual outcome of the slippery slope that comes from justifying colonial interests that were legitimized in cooperation with the Nazis under the Haavara Agreement under the vise of religion.

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    bro stfu you won after a war against palestine when British gave palestine independence,your not a real country isnotrael.