With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

  • Ion@lemmy.myserv.one
    2·
    2 months ago

    I’m voting for Claudia de la Cruz, not that it matters. neither Claudia, Cornel West, or Jill Stein are actively funding a genocide.

    • prole
      5·
      2 months ago

      neither Claudia, Cornel West, or Jill Stein are actively funding a genocide.

      Yes, because none of these people work in the government so no fucking shit.

      You’re essentially voting for Donald Trump, just remember that. You can try to rationalize it, but you cannot argue with reality.

      If you actually gave a single shit about the Palestinian people (that you suddenly started caring about on an election year, despite the conditions in Gaza being this way for literal decades), then you will do anything to make sure that Donald Trump does not get elected.

      If you want a viable third party, you don’t wait until 8 months before an election every 4 years to steal votes from the Democratic party. Until we do away with first past the post and/or the Electoral College, voting for anyone other than one of the two major parties is akin to not voting at all (or in many cases, an active detriment to the Democratic party, which is why it’s always such a no-brainer for Putin. Maximum social discord, minimum cost).

      I know that you know this. I just want you to remember it when Trump wins and by February Palestine literally ceases to exist. If you want to see this genocide kicked into high gear all you gotta do is: vote for Donald Trump, vote for a third party, or not vote at all… And then you too can feel like you’re part of the action!

      • Ion@lemmy.myserv.one
        1·
        2 months ago

        I’ve been heavily anti-Israel since the murder of Rouzan al-Najjar in 2018. I’ve worked on multiple local campaigns for both independent and Democratic candidates alike. But reading through your rant it definitely sounds like you’re projecting a lot of your own personal insecurities. I’m sorry that exercising my freedom to vote for a candidate that aligns with my values of not commiting genocide upsets you. I hope you can look past your own shortcomings as a human being and learn to forgive yourself for being ok with your tax dollars slaughtering an entire indigenous population.

        • ochi_chernye@startrek.website
          4·
          2 months ago

          But your proposed course of action clearly doesn’t align with your stated goal, for reasons that have already been pointed out to you. I don’t see you engaging with that argument. This leads me to believe that you don’t actually care about what happens to Palestinians; you just want to feel like you’re taking a moral stand. People that actually give a shit tend to care about what the consequences of their actions will be.

          • Ion@lemmy.myserv.one
            1·
            2 months ago

            My proposed course of action aligns with the Palestinian Americans in my community. We speak out at our city council every month and hold rallies near our house reps office every week. But I guess I just don’t care as much as someone voting in favor of the slaughter of their families, someone like you.

            • ochi_chernye@startrek.website
              1·
              2 months ago

              Whether that’s true or not, it doesn’t change the math. The world’s full of people advocating against their own interests. You still haven’t addressed the argument.

                • ochi_chernye@startrek.website
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  No, it’s the logical and inevitable consequence of the action you’re advocating for. Just saying it’s “dumb” in no way refutes it.

                  • Ion@lemmy.myserv.one
                    1·
                    2 months ago

                    If that’s what you gotta tell yourself before you sleep at night go off. Personally, I hope you hear the screams of the 15k+ dead Palestinian children every night for the rest of your miserable life.