• Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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    Absolutely agree. Even me posting about third parties here has brought more hate and mockery than I’ve ever experienced, even on Reddit! People can be toxic. lol

    But all the backlash has only made me more determined to keep posting news about third parties!

    I believe in people having options and diversity in political opinions. :)

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      But all the backlash has only made me more determined

      Oh sure sure. That’s the reason. 🙄

      Thank God you’re here to make sure everyone remembers they can chuck their vote into a hole if they don’t care who wins.

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          Of course you will because you’re most likely 1) a disinformation agent who is being paid to post these ridiculously stupid opinions, or 2) someone who is a “useful idiot” and genuinely believe that voting 3rd party is a complete waste of a vote when these 3rd parties do nothing for 4 years and only show up on election year to try and steal votes from Democrats.

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            a disinformation agent who is being paid to post these ridiculously stupid opinions

            I didn’t write the article. So what “ridiculously stupid opinions” are you talking about?

            when these 3rd parties do nothing for 4 years

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @SyntaxTerror@feddit.org for the info)

            State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)

            • Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
            • Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
            • Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
            • Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
            • Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
            • John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
            • Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
            • Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)

            Current Green Party Mayors

            • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
            • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
            • Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)

            Former Green Party Mayors

            • John Reed - Fairfax, California
            • Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
            • David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
            • Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
            • Robb Davis - Davis, California
            • Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
            • Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
            • Jason West - New Paltz, New York

            Current Green Party City & County Council Members

            • Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
            • David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
            • Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
            • Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
            • Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
            • Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
            • David Grover - Trinidad, California
            • Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
            • John Keener - Pacifica, California
            • Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
            • Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
            • Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
            • George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
            • Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
            • Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
            • Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
            • Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California

            Former Green Party City & County Council Members

            • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
            • George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
            • Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
            • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
            • Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
            • Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
            • Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
            • Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
            • Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
            • Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
            • Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
            • Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
            • Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
            • Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
            • Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
            • Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
            • Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
            • Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
            • Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
            • Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
            • Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
            • Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
            • Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
            • Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
            • Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
            • Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
            • Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts

            Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)

            • Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
            • Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
            • Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
            • Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
            • Carl D’Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
            • Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
            • Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
            • Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
            • Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
            • Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
            • Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
            • Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
            • Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
            • Vincent O’Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
            • Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
            • Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
            • John Powell - Montecito, California
            • Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
            • Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
            • Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
            • Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
            • Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
            • Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
            • Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
            • Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota

            Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)

            • John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
            • Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
            • Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
            • Kim O’Connor - Hillsbor
            • Lasherz12@lemmy.world
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              What percentage do the names of the literal entirety of current elected green officials you listed, as granularity as local elections, represent of the total elected positions? Hint: in 1992 that total was about 520,000 people.

              Edit: lol didn’t even realize you included former appointments.

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                My point was they don’t only run pres elections.

                Friend, I’m not voting for her. But the green party does more than just run for president. Now if you wanna argue percentages, ok, cool. But they do run for offices, as I’ve shown you.

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                  With something like 50% appointment rate, largely due to uncontested elections. In other words, less than 250 run compared to 520k other party contenders. This is less than .05% green, yet they think they should be on 100% of presidential races.

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          Didn’t ask you to explain anything. I wouldn’t believe your “explanation” if you gave one.

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            I wouldn’t believe your “explanation” if you gave one.

            So then what’s the point of accusations then? Because you’ve just admitted that you will believe what you wanna believe. So maybe you should let it go.

            Some things are true, whether you believe them or not. And I’ll keep posting any articles that I find interesting. Thank you! :)

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              I didn’t make accusations did I? Look, you’re welcome to block me of you don’t want to see my comments on the articles you post.

              Voting 3rd party in a US election = not getting a say in which of the actual candidates gets elected. I’ll keep reminding folks about that unless you’re trying to say certain viewpoints shouldn’t be freely expressed…

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                You have a narrative you wanna push, all because I am not voting for you candidate.

                I’m fine with you being against 3rd parties. You keep arguing against them, I’ll keep arguing for them. Unless you’re trying to say certain viewpoints shouldn’t be freely expressed.

                I’ll keep posting. And you keep posting.

                As long as the news reports on them, I’ll post them. :)

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                  Woah. I’m not anti 3rd party. Don’t put words in my mouth.

                  It’s just stupid to vote for any third party in this election. I think we should have ranked choice and a number of election reforms to allow for viable 3rd parties. But 2 months before a wanna be dictator is on the ballot isn’t the time.

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                    It’s just stupid to vote for any third party in this election.

                    Ohhh, so any other election. Just not THIS one. What about the last one, was it ok then? Or the one before?

                    What about the next election when Trump Jr decides do run, will it be ok to vote 3rd party then?

                    Other ones are ok, just not 2024 then, right? So you’re gonna be totally ok with me posting third party articles after this election. Right?

                    I’ll be sure to save this post so we can talk about that after this election. :)

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      Yeah, the problem isn’t the articles you post, those are fine. Trying to misdirect onto that is a strawman. People don’t like you due to how you engage in comment sections with the people that want to talk about those articles.

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      Until our voting system is changed from First-to-the-Finish to Ranked Choice, it’s impossible for a third party to be a legitimate option.

      I would love to see a third party candidate be successful, but if these third parties can’t even complete their paperwork on time and take opposition party funding, they are not legitimate.