He should have resigned in the last year of his presidency. Had Pence pardon him. Then attended functions for the rest of his life as a “dignified former president”
But nah. He bought his own hype. Now he has to win or he dies in prison. And it’s every bit his own damn fault. Fully self inflicted.
The problem is he didn’t trust pence to follow through. And self pardons were a very big legal grey area. And it didn’t help that people were realizing Biden could kick his ass which brought back trump’s PTSD over Obama’s… existence?
But also? He will never see a day of prison (might get some jail stays though). Democrats care too much about “decorum” to throw the book at him and his handlers have enough money that he will appeal everything until the day he dies… which might be accelerated depending upon how much he pisses off those handlers.
But it wouldn’t have been a self-pardon if he resigned and had Pence take over. There’s already precedent with Ford’s pardon of Nixon.
The problem is he didn’t trust pence to follow through.
The problem is he only thinks about himself for EVERYTHING.
And he also knew he had stacked the courts. Which probably made him feel more confident. And it so far is working out.
Fuck I hate this country sometimes.
Trump’s PTSD over Obama’s… existence
Watch American history unfold, and that’s not hyperbole. History changed that night.
This fucker is driven by nothing but his psychotic narcissism. The very idea of no longer being center of attention is probably his biggest nightmare.
I wish him a long life to experience it.
Does Trump know the word “dignified”?
He knows all the best words. Some people say he is true genius.
Idgnified?
Highly unlikely.
A pardon wouldn’t help him. His 34 felonies were at the state level. Pardons are only for federal crimes.
This is in a hypothetical situation where he didn’t run in 2020, so he wouldn’t have done the election manipulation in Georgia.
His felonies are for paying the porn star hush money.
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“dignified” … Ha!
Lol prison - I’ll believe it when I see it.
You and me both. But he doesn’t know that.
As you might have noticed. The man is a fucking idiot.
Plenty of suggestions as long as we’re second-guessing his actions. Many of his crimes were related to the 2020 election, and if he hadn’t ran, he wouldn’t have issues in Georgia. We could also just say he could have not taken a bunch of classified documents, but it’s pretty easy to say “just don’t commit crimes”. The main one that he couldn’t avoid at that point was the Stormy Daniels hush money case.
The main one that he couldn’t avoid at that point was the Stormy Daniels hush money case.
If Trump had exited without a fight, my guess is that most of the momentum for that would have died out. Yes it was a crime, but I think most would have just wanted to put Trump in the rear view mirror and forget about him and focus on the future for better or worse.
Possibly. That would be basically agreeing with his claim that it was politically motivated prosecution, though. Seems to me like he really pissed off some people in New York and they may have done it anyway.
Possibly. That would be basically agreeing with his claim that it was politically motivated prosecution, though.
I disagree with your conclusion.
As an example, Nixon committed worse crimes than Trump’s New York state crimes, and Nixon was not prosecuted for his crimes. Had authorities pursued conviction of Nixon that would not have been politically motivated.
I’m not saying I agree with Trump saying that in the first place. But to say he’s prosecuted because he’s running and wouldn’t be if he wasn’t seems like the definition of politically motivated. In any event, he’s being prosecuted because he’s guilty.
When someone in good faith says “This prosecution against me is politically motivated.” They are communicating the idea that the charges were manufactured without any underlying crime or possibly the underlying crime is minuscule, but the charges are overblown. Neither of those is the case with Trump.
If you’re just using the dictionary definitions of the words, “politically”, “motivated”, and “prosecuted” then yes it meets that, but then so does a whole bunch of other absurd stuff you don’t mean when using the same logic. By that logic a home burglar is the victim of “politically motivate prosecution” because our legal policy is that burglary is a crime and that the burglar is being prosecuted because of it.
That’s not a good parallel, it’s the politically ‘motivated’ part he’s referring to. If someone is being prosecuted because they’re running for office, and you have a legitimate argument that if they had chosen not to run for office the charges would have been dropped, it’s legitimate to say it’s politically motivated.
On the other hand, if your crime was literally campaign finance crimes and voter manipulation, there’s a reasonable argument that ‘politically motivated’ isn’t necessarily a bad thing here. If you did a political crime, and seem likely to continue to be politically motivated to commit more crimes, it kind of makes sense that prosecuting you with a tiny bit of political intent isn’t totally unreasonable.
Isn’t “just don’t commit crimes” a common justification for police murder and deflection when prison reform is brought up?
I guess. Not stealing a bunch of classified documents and refusing to give them back is a great way to not be prosecuted for stealing classified documents though.
Anyway what I meant by “pretty easy to say” is that it’s not really a satisfying or useful suggestion.
Lol. Indeed.
I hope so. Biden is old, but his problems with mental acuity were dramatically exaggerated by the media and conservatives. When people asked him questions, he would actually answer them. Meanwhile republicans were “omg he doesn’t even know what room he’s in bro” and that was sort of ridiculous. But then, you have Trump seems not just loopy but insane and deranged, and unlike Biden, he’s always been an idiot. However Trump he gets a pass from these same people. The press has never paid nearly enough attention to how incoherent he is. It gets frustrating because it has to be on purpose.
Of course it’s on purpose. Most of the media are owned by oligarchs that support Trump because all they care about is their next tax cut.
Right. The “liberal media” BS has been of the Republican’s most successful tactics. Corporate media is not left-wing - it’s absurd, but that’s what conservatives push and many people fully believe it. Almost all media outlets in the US support conservatives in subtle ways, but people have been trained to think that right/centrist corporate media is rabidly biased towards the left.
Manufacturing consent documented this at great length in the late 80s, and there’s absolutely no way it hasn’t gotten worse since then.
Yes, but many of the journalists are normal peopke on the left and write. If they are constantly being stifled, they should still be reporting on that or quitting. There is meant to be done integrity in the profession.
Its been gone for many years. Now its just content farms.
A lot of Biden was also focused around a brainfart he had during the debate… I just spent days at an expo, and I had plenty where I lost my chain of thought due to being tired.
And a photo where it looks like he’s speaking to nobody… But they cropped the parachuter out.
Whereas, Trump constantly makes major mistakes for things he should know. And it is in general incoherent rambling. I’m a total introvert and even I don’t fuck up the way Trump does (ie, completely mixing up people and names constantly).
Because he’s always been an idiot he set the right expectations, let that be a lesson for any of you getting into politics
It worked for GW Bush, too… come off as sorta dense and dopey, then people will act pleasantly surprised when you exceed expectations vs. be critical for falling short of them.
Imagine giving Trump $180,000,000 and he calls you “Leon”. LMAO at these clowns.
Did he actually do that? He said he was going to, but Leon Musk is famously a big fucking liar.
I understand it was advertising credits for twitter specifically. So not really ‘money’
I saw he said he was writing a $45 million check a month for 4 months. Dunno if he followed through.
He walked back on that.
Well that explains his demotion to “Leon”.
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you don’t even mispronounce one word
Mispronouncing words often happens with people that read words many times before hearing them spoken.
It also happens more when you actually use large words instead of speaking like a first grader.
That’s me trying to explain destiny lore. It’s not pretty or coherent, but I’m pretty sure it’s still more understandable than trump.
Relevant quote:
“Boeing had a little hard time, so they are going to save — Leon’s going to send up a rocket,” Trump said. “He looks forward to it. That’s all he thinks about is things like that.”.
Not remembering names and making shit up. As usual.
Leon Umsk
Leon Skum
And we shall forever call him Leon Skum.
umsk umsk umsk umsk boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and…
I’m so glad his name is so dumb and forgettable that this made me completely forget it for like 30 seconds lol.
There’s someone out there named Leon Musk who’s day just got profoundly weirder.
Oh gosh. I now want to know what all the Leon Musks of the world are going through.
Given that reality must warp to fit what Trump says, the campaign must now find Leon and task him to send a rocket to space.
Maybe they’ll find Leon working at Four Season Total Landscaping
I’m gonna call him Leon now. I bet it pisses him off more than any of the other insulting nicknames we’ve come up with for him.
Don’t besmirch Leon S Kennedy like that
Leon Skum
He has been insecure about his intelligence his entire life.
Well, he has every reason to. According to all accounts but his own, he really is breathtakingly stupid.
I don’t think he really is that stupid (or at least used to be, IDK how much of his intellect he has left given the decline we’ve been seeing lately). What he is, is extremely intellectually lazy. He believes that he can make good decisions by “instinct”, without ever taking some time to think about it, do some research or consulting experts. He believes that this is what being intelligent is. He just says and does whatever feels good at the time, thinking that being “so smart” means he doesn’t need to do any work at all to make good decisions. And whenever whatever he said was inevitably revealed as false or stupid, only then he will actually make an intellectual effort to bullshit and manipulate his way out of it. And this ability to perform the mental gymnastics to keep himself in denial over his incompetence is something that he has become outstandingly good at. His followers are just people who buy into those mental gymnastics.
Do you have any hints at what would make you consider him not stupid, historically? Being confident and narcissistic, and even talented at bullshit doesn’t make you smart. And recognizing weaknesses in the system isn’t really smart, even if it is perceptive, when those weaknesses are really just strong arm tactics that happen to be available to him through brazenness, inheritance, litigation, cruelty and others recognizing him as a convenient money laundering option.
But he tapped his head and said “MIT” tho, so legit smarts!
I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things… I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are. But I speak to a lot of people. My primary consultant is myself, and I have, you know, I have a good instinct for this stuff.
DonOLD is slipping fast. He admits people 80 years old are too old to sign documents.
Honestly? I hope he keeps running, then has a massive public dementia breakdown like a week before the election. I think Kamala can beat Trump, so keep him in the race until it’s too late for repubs to shoehorn anyone else in.
For this year at least, it’s too late to replace Trump on the ticket. Unless they replace Trump with Vance. That would comply with the rules. Sort of. Trump’s name would still be on the ticket. But Vance would take lead, and would pick a running mate.
There are two major factors that would keep this from becoming a reality. First is Trump will never step aside in favor of someone else.
Second is that Vance has negative charisma.
He doesn’t have a problem with mental acuity…
… he was always an idiot.
He didn’t change, he’s always been like this
No, he’s much worse than he used to be.
Which was already bad.
No, there has definitely been a drop in his coherence.
He used to be an idiot you could understand, now he’s just spewing words together than sound like partial thoughts
I don’t know why people like OP post “He’s always been (stupid/senile/deranged/whatever)!” Does it make them feel smart to say,“I’ve always known better and you’re an idiot if you think this is new!”
Trump is clearly past some kind of tipping point here. He’s gone downhill so far and fast that, were he a relative, we would have been plotting elder care a year or two back, no longer fit to live alone and keep house.
There’s obviously been a drop in his coherence, but it’s not like he was smart and now he’s dumb… He’s always babbled bullshit at a 5th grade level at best, he’s just had enough money and undeserved confidence behind him that he could mostly muddle through an interview just sounding smarmy and punchable… Now he’s also dealing with dementia to the point where he literally can’t remember what he started bullshitting about.
probably called him Felon Musk
Prob forgot his name and said Elon Tesla like he did with Tim Apple.
I hope he legit called him “Elongated Muskrat.”
Stretched Nutria
But… Elon’s a man (technically). Not a woman, camera, or TV. How did Trump pass that in-depth cognitive test!?
I feel like doubt isn’t strong enough. Disbelieving?
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