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    12 days ago

    What even is the point, though? The number of games made specifically for the PS5 can be counted on 1 hand and it’s not like those have significant performance issues that warrant even more powerful hardware.

    Do any of these bigger numbers mean one would at least be able to play an existing game in 4k with ray tracing at higher than 30fps?

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        You can get one is my understanding but this sentiment aint wrong either. this is the transition stage.

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      The current Slim PS5 also doesn’t have a disc drive, you can just buy it in a bundle and attach the optional one.

      Honestly for manufacturing this makes way more sense, to ship one SKU and then make them all upgradable to disc. It’s also kind of nice that if you buy a digital one and want disc in the future you can just buy the drive.

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      11 days ago

      I’m not sure the disc drive can be saved at this point. There’s big games that didn’t even come out on disc, like BG3.

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    What’s the point of consoles getting more powerful? Shouldn’t affordability be the main target at this point?

    Their main target audience is couch gaming on TVs, which are usually only 60Hz, something the PS5 and XSX can do comfortably.

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      Consoles need to be more powerful because of the perceived importance that marketing has created for gamers desperate need for graphical fidelity over all else.

      The gameplay of COD and FIFA doesn’t matter so long as it’s sharper/more crisp/more real. Granted, this mindset has somewhat faded, however it is still present and as a result corporations are still pushing it because while 60hz may be an old standard, Sony now has 120hz TV’s to sell you.

      In addition to that, COD and FIFA don’t have to be nearly as well optimized if the consoles can just brute force through it. Also, without newer consoles that are more powerful, there then won’t be games that are too powerful to run on older consoles, meaning they won’t get to sell you new consoles because of the old games you want to play. Instead they can sell you the new games that only work on the new consoles.

      I’m sure there are more reasons, but those seem to be the 3 core facets that make up the purpose of console gaming; sell the lie of the best graphical fidelity, make a game that requires a high powered console to play it, market it as “needing the best of the best” to be able to play it, and suddenly you have a brand loyal set of consumers who keep returning to the fishhook.

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        Enter Nintendo. Crappy 9yo SOC, sure, whatever, here are some fun games that aren’t graphically advanced.

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          The console wars have always been between Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo does the innovation side of things

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            If by always you mean the last 15-20 years, plenty more warring from the likes of Nintendo and Sega before then!

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              Console fidelity wars, from my understanding when I was growing up the improvements in graphics were appreciated but not the sole aspect of whether a game was good, like the way 2005-2025 (and somewhat into 2025 but significantly less so) did

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          Also Nintendo: They are $70. Want an old game? Also $70. Sales? What are those?

          Consoles are such a scam when you think about it, but their low barrier to entry carries them (along with the marketing of course).

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            They don’t have asmany sales, but I’ve definitely scored some good prices on games here and there. They often run 20+% off on first party titles and non-first party gets deep discounts (I scored Rabbids for $4 a while back). I just wish they’d do the equivalent of PS Greatest Hits for like $20.

            For some situations a console is nicer than a PC. Solid, consistent, single unit I can just connect to a TV and play. I’ve got a PC and I prefer it, but the average console is cheaper than my PC was and simpler for non-geek family members to boot up and play on a whim.

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      TVs have been available in 120Hz and VRR for a while now. Even my 2017 OLED supports 120Hz, albeit only at 1080p.

      That said, I don’t see the need to chase that with more expensive hardware. Any game with a choice of performance vs resolution, I find myself swapping to performance mode. I can see extra frames, I struggle to see extra pixels.

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        There are a lot of ‘fake’ 120Hz+ TVs you have to watch out for though. The real ones are expensive.

        The point being really, most people dont upgrade their TVs at all, for as long as the picture is good. Consoles have the hardware todo 120Hz right now.

        Thats another good point, when you are sat so far away from the screen, the resolution becomes less important.

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        But both ps5 and Xbox had rt core, no?, what I understood is that the normal cores are RDNA3 and the RT cores RDNA4, ps5 no-pro has everything (including the RT cores) RDNA2

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          Ah your probably correct - but just wanted to denote the inclusion of the “RDNA4 RT

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    12 days ago

    would really love playstation to come out with a hybrid switch/steam deck design because i honestly can’t comprehend having a console that i can’t take with me and play on the go anymore.

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    At first I thought, they’re releasing this news now to drown out the Concord news, but 30 year anniversary, maybe they did have this planned a little longer. 🙃