• reddig33@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    16 days ago

    Seems like a misstep. If the cars aren’t selling, look outside the manufacturing plant for the problems.

    • filister@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      16 days ago

      I mean they hiked considerably the prices and then wonder why their cars aren’t selling well. Plus VW cars are very boring.

      • PyroNeurosis
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        14 days ago

        Boring is good. I’d rather a car be boring than surprising. Especially at highway speeds.

          • PyroNeurosis
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            14 days ago

            The real issue is the pricetag. Most folks as I understand it want a car to go to work and run errands or whatever. The appeal of Japanese cars historically has been their reliability and competitive price. They were,'t really luxury vehicles, but took a huge chunk of the market by being a commuter car.

            People wanting exciting cars are probably looking for sports cars or muscle cars or whatever that VW doesn’t have much of a hand in.

      • quafeinum@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        15 days ago

        Well don’t forget the diesel emission scandal. They’ll happily cheat for profit as hard as possible.

  • barsoap@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    16 days ago

    The Wolfsburg-based manufacturer on Monday informed its works council

    Goshdarnit Guardian. You mean management, as in the CEO, informed the board, which has 50% - 1 seats allocated to the works council. Who already expressed their preference for the CEO to shove it. Then we have the seats representing the state stake (Lower Saxony owns 20%), which let it be known, somewhat more statesmanlike, that “the question of works closures won’t arise because every other option will be exhausted first”.

    My prediction? If the CEO doesn’t clearly communicate that “those were of course theoretical considerations unlikely to have practical relevance” there’s going to be a new CEO.

    • Zip2@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      15 days ago

      I live in the countryside and flapping my arms does nothing. I need a car for the occasions when I don’t walk.

      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        15 days ago

        Just use the bus, it comes twice in the morning so you are either an hour early or hour late from work, and leaves half an hour before your day ends and then once more at midnight.
        Convenient!

        • Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          14 days ago

          I don’t know man, I live in a somewhat rural area and just take my ebike to work when i have to. Most of the time i work from home though. I’d gladly see the German car industry die to make way for more efficient cars from Japan or France for example. German car manufacturers have completely forgotten where they came from and are just selling overpriced luxury cars that are unreliable as fuck.

        • Zip2@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          14 days ago

          Not really, I walk to work. But that inconvenience sure does sound appealing!

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        13 days ago

        Once there are no more cars, all other transport will improve. People still need to go everywhere and there will be more buses, more bike lanes, more trams and trains etc…

    • TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      15 days ago

      Yeah, once there’s sufficient public transport in rural areas. Which there isn’t. So no, we still need cars.

        • Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          14 days ago

          I work in heavy machinery. We use tons of metal, like literally. We’re still dominating the market with competitive prices and good technology. Building cars is amateur time in comparison.

          Edit: the main portion of costs is personnel. We have a gigantic service network and they’re expensive as fuck because Germany has a good union (IG Metall). Gas is absolutely of no concern to us at all.

          • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            14 days ago

            sounds like german auto industry lost its competitive edge due to shiti management and too much state aid.

            good to hear that your industry is able to compete despite gas prices!

            • Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              14 days ago

              I will agree with that. Im honestly very happy and proud that we manage to power through the slight recession. And im 100% sure its because of good management. We jumped on board the sustainability train fairly quickly and we’re definitely benefitting from it. It helps that our customers are doing the same. Conservative mindset is what’s ruining our industry (and our political landscape). All they do is whine when things won’t work the way they used to and then they wait for state aid.

              Anywho, thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it!

              • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                14 days ago

                Thank you for providing additional details.

                Are owners of poorly ran enterprises just asking for bailouts? Or are they literally not competitive? Trying to better understand reason for decline in industrial output etc.