• Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      34·
      2 months ago

      That’s why the pedophile tweet in 2018 so thoroughly shattered the illusion for me. It wasn’t just incredibly petty, it was also easily avoidable. Like not only did he reveal who he was, it was easy to see how he could have been that person all along and the world could have never known about it if he just knew when to swallow his pride. And “the cave is too tight and twisty for your submarine to fit, even if you could develop and confirm its safety in time to save the kids, when we can just get them out without that tech” was such a dumb moment to decide to be petty.

      I don’t have much of a mind for PR stuff but it was even obvious to me that he could have still walked away looking great if he had financed some catering for the rescue team and families. Just show he was comfortable with sharing the spotlight and having an idea that was made in good faith shot down.

      But nooooo, he had to be the saviour and since he couldn’t do that, he needed to turn the one that hurt his feelings into a villain. With a comment that caught anyone who goes to Thailand for non-child sex tourist reasons in the blast radius (and maybe even told on himself a bit?).

      And then he’s just been spiraling since, at least as far as public image goes.

      • m0darn@lemmy.ca
        14·
        2 months ago

        It was about one day before that for me. I was like

        oh that’s so cool, he’s got amazing engineers working to repurpose a pressure vessel from SpaceX to act as a rescue pod to save those kids.

        Then actual cave divers were like:

        any cave diver will tell you that this will never work

        What kind of cave diving rescue plan doesn’t talk to any cave divers before drawing any attention to itself? The kind designed solely to draw attention and stroke ego. He tried to make those boys’ struggles about himself because he thinks he’s the most capable man alive.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, that all played into the dynamic, though I didn’t catch that aspect until after his tantrum.

          My guess is that he’s a shitty boss that is quick to punish mistakes and ideas that seem good early on but turn out to be bad after more attention was given to them or an attempt was made. So getting shot down became more than just about the sub, I’d bet part of it was not wanting to deserve a chewing out he’s given many times so he tried to make it about something else.

    • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      Despite having more money than god, he had “lovable dork” energy. I can’t imagine squandering that. I would have just kept my mouth shut and only opened it when I wanted to talk about whatever new cool thing I decided to have built.

    • mhague@lemmy.world
      82·
      2 months ago

      I wonder why the richest man in the world says he’s about free speech. He lives in a country that considers money to be speech. He has the most speech of anyone, but that’s not it surely.

      • Red_October@lemmy.world
        75·
        2 months ago

        He says he’s about free speech because he agreed with the kinds of speech that get excluded from civil discussion. He considered people getting shunned for racist opinions to be censorship, while he considers terminating the accounts of anyone who disagrees with him to be his prerogative and perfectly fair.

        Elon Musk has never actually stood for “Free Speech,” only for the speech he likes. He SAYS he likes free speech purely because it has better optics for him and worse optics for his opposition than “Let me say racist things.”

  • kd45@lemm.ee
    64·
    2 months ago

    Who still gives a shit about that dumb little website, just ignore it and maybe it will go away

  • Emmie@lemmings.world
    11·
    2 months ago

    I am currently helping to develop a platform that aims to catch Brazilians evading the ban, hopefully it will help enforcing the law.

    • rhacer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      60·
      2 months ago

      The best thing you could possibly do is have children report on their parents for evading the ban. Or I suppose have neighbors report on each other.

      It was really effective for the Stasi and the KGB.

        • rhacer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 months ago

          I’m unsure why you would draw that conclusion. I don’t know enough about Elon Musk to be either a fan of the man or a detractor of the man, but it is quite possible that he and I have views that intersect from time-to-time. Just as I’m guessing you and I may have views that intersect from time-to-time.

          I’m also old enough to remember the Stasi and the KGB. So if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I’m gonna call it a duck, and your project, if it really exists and wasn’t you just blowing smoke, is exactly the kind of project those two organizations would have signed on for. Neither one of them wanted the citizens behind their Iron Curtain learning about things that were not State approved. So they actively suppressed those things and those who shared them, (cf. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, of whom you may have heard. If not, I encourage you to look him up).

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      18·
      2 months ago

      I am currently helping to develop a platform that aims to catch

      Ooh child abusers?! Terrorists?!

      Brazilians using a website

      Oh

      .

      Know you’re probably joking

  • kerrypacker@lemmy.world
    4·
    2 months ago

    Good, fuck censorship. If you don’t stick up for those you disagree with one day they’ll be censoring you.

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
        33·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, if twitter was run by a principled individual who actually was a free speech absolutist, I would be siding twitter. If twitter was anything other then an advertising platform, I would be siding with twitter. If twitter wasn’t censoring news orgs that criticized Musk, I would be siding with twitter.

    • darki@lemmy.world
      24·
      2 months ago

      This comes from a Elon-drone like you, that ignores Musk banning people who make a joke about him or post where his plane took off to…

    • Ibaudia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      2 months ago

      No, this is free speech absolutism. You can’t say anything you want on any forum and expect zero consequences. That’s ridiculous.

    • Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca
      22·
      2 months ago

      I mean, yes in theory, but it’s also a social contract. We shouldn’t allow people who advocate for violence or harm against other people.

      There should be no censorship in theory. In theory, communism works. In theory.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      At this point you can basically just search for the word “disagree” and it’s 99% intellectual dishonesty.