• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Okay, so then why do we have a word for woman? What is the intention of that category? Is it really necessary to define anyway? If not, why does it matter what a woman is except its what she calls herself?

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          3 months ago

          We have a word for woman because it is a useful descriptor. The intention of the category is to presuppose useful information about a person. In some situations it is necessary to define. No need to answer the if not question.

          • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            presuppose useful information about a person

            Yes, and in your opinion, what specifically is that information?

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              3 months ago

              Well if someone says to me “that woman is suspicious” and there are two people who present as men, and one who presents as a woman, then I’m going to keep my eye on the woman.

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                  3 months ago

                  The one which presents as a woman. Because me, and virtually everyone else is using a definition which has utility (not yours).

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                    3 months ago

                    Ah, I see the definition. “A woman is someone who presents as a woman.” You’re right, that’s much better and much less recursive.

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                    3 months ago

                    And what specifically about her presents as a woman to you?

                    It’s funny you’re such a coward about actually saying this, since you’re the one claiming this basis exists. If it’s there and you can know it immediately on sight, then what about the woman you’re imagining in this scenario makes her a woman to you?

                    “Vittually everyone else is using a definition,” so what is it? You refuse to say directly. And how do you know everyone else uses that definition? Multiple people itt have defined it as I and Erin have- any woman who identifies as such.