• Eleazar@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m sorry but yes, you should consider bottom surgery mutilation. There’s a difference between the other things but I’m sure you’re missing it.

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      The big difference is the consent; bottom surgery is done with the consent of the patient and circumsicions are typically done to babies who have no say in the matter. Heck, if someone wants to get circumsized later in life, they absolutely should be able to. Don’t get the whole thing about ‘mutilation’, adults should be able to do whatever they want to their bodies.

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      1 year ago

      Bottom surgery is literally, definitionally, not mutilation when it’s done for a consenting adult.

      If you want to call bottom surgery mutilation by your own definition, then literally every surgery is mutilation. But like, cutting out my defective heart and installing a working one, while technically “mutilating” me, is objectively a good for my health.

      You can call surgery mutilation if you want, but it isn’t helpful to anyone and it only serves to make transphobes feel good about themselves.

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      1 year ago

      So someone getting bottom surgery after their penis was irreparably damaged in an accident is being mutilated? Or someone treating a medical issue so they stop passing out from their Cramps? Wow, I’m glad my doc mutilated me out of pain. 🤦

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        Do you always try to start arguments by making shit up about what the other person said? Yes? Ok then, you do you I guess.

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          You’re saying that bottom surgery is genital mutilation. They’re giving examples of situations where even a transphobes should agree that bottom surgery is good. If it is mutilation in those examples, then you agree with what they said. If it isn’t mutilation in those examples, then it isn’t mutilation in the first place.

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          We should take this a step further though. Any kind of genital mutilation should be illegal, including bottom surgery.

          You said bottom surgery was mutilation and should be illegal. Those are both bottom surgeries, therefore by your own statement you think they should be illegal. I don’t have to make shit up when you already did that for me.