It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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    A day is going to come when the VPNs are going to be targeted for regulation.

    It’s only a matter of time before someone shoots up a school with a 3D printed gun or Epstein’s a terabyte of child porn to a Senator’s office or some other silly bullshit, and then VPNs will become the whipping boy for our litany of problems.

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      In autocratic states where VPNs are blocked, they use VPNs that are harder to detect. So by the time they decide to criminalize VPN use in the free (read slightly less un-free) world, we’ll still have a cornucopia of options.

      It’s like FBI trying to ban encryption or get it regulated when we already have encryption technology that is deniable.

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        n autocratic states where VPNs are blocked, they use VPNs that are harder to detect

        Paying for the VPN that’s harder to detect with my credit card which is very easy to detect.

        It’s like FBI trying to ban encryption

        https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/the-fbi-is-secretly-breaking-into-encrypted-devices-were-suing

        Devices are already riddled with backdoors imposed by federal authorities. The only real way to avoid them is to obtain a device not designed or assembled within the NATO block.

        Incidentally, import of these devices has become increasingly difficult, on the grounds that these devices may have backdoors implemented by foreign governments.

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          In case you weren’t aware, it’s actually pretty easy to pay for a VPN in unmarked funds. Most will allow for BTC transactions, but some VPNs will even allow you to use giftcards for a place like Target.

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            Most will allow for BTC transactions

            This is the dumb guy panacea for committing every financial crime. You’d never even know the block chain is a public ledger.

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            Mullvad even lets you send them an envelope with cash in it, with no identifying info other than your account number.

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          Devices are already riddled with backdoors imposed by federal authorities. The only real way to avoid them is to obtain a device not designed or assembled within the NATO block.

          this smells distinctly russian for some reason, anyway, just use open source software and hardware, the protection net while not perfect, is entirely open, and theoretically, capable of perfect safety.

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            this smells distinctly russian

            Of course, disregard everything Snowden and Assange leaked. Your devices are secure, citizen. Carry on.

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              my brother in christ you literally referred to it as the NATO block.

              What makes you think chinese devices don’t have backdoors for example? It’s also likely russian devices do, though idk how many if any they produce. We do know that russian malware often has a russian locale kill switch because apparently they’re a little silly like that.

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        Not to long ago, I think it was Josh Hawley or Ted Cruz, that proposed legislation in an attempt to curb online pornography or something, and part of it was the shutting down of Tor, to take away anonymity.

        And being attention seeking blowhards they went to the media before they dropped it in the Senate.

        That day they proposed the bill, and then like 2 days later they withdrew it, and took whiteout to the Tor part.

        In that interim they got an unannounced visit and a talking to by the CIA. Turns out that TOR is mission critical to how we communicate with overseas assets nowadays. Bitcoin was guaranteed to not fail for the same reason.

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      Considering how many corporations rely on VPNs for their workers, I don’t think this would gain much traction.

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        A number of countries are experimenting with registration of VPNs and blocking of TOR traffic.

        And there are more than a few VPN series that are explicitly or implicitly compromised by the security services in their own countries.

        I wouldn’t try planning to do the next 9/11 on a ProtonVPN, for instance. The NSA is all over that shit.