Asking as it seems nobody wants one based on the reception of the Pixel 9
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I’d love to know what an “AI phone” actually means, given that AI is the hottest buzzword to slap on everything since “blockchain”.
Does it mean it just connects to chat gpt? Does it run a chatbot locally? Does it do image generation and deep fakes? Does it monitor all my activity to recommend stuff google now style? Does it create a realistic personality I’ll fall in love with like in the movie “her”? What does it mean‽
it means that it has hardware that can multiply matrices. Just like the gpu they already have can!
i remember seeing this in a lemmy post somewhere.
It doesn’t matter. It’s the latest buzzword, so it might induce clueless people to buy.
Pretty much yes to all of the above.
AI Phones or AI laptops are IMO a pure marketing invention.
Qualcomm laptops has some intriguing locally computed functions
So what? Every laptop has a gpu do you call them gpu laptops? Modern CPUs/SOCs accelerate a lot of things, this is just one more.
Nvidia called the ray tracing gpus RTX. Now all of them has that chip, all of them are called RTX. Same will happen here, in 5 years every cpu will be “AI” and no one will call it that way
True, they have some interesting features. But at least if they use Windows ML, these apps can run on any hardware. The only difference is the performance that can be achieved.
They said something in the video you linked that the developers could use a larger model thanks to the performance of the Snapdragon Chip. And with Davinci, they said that the performance with NPU is better than with GPU.
What I’m trying to say is that these things are not a new invention of 2024. NPUs were introduced at least 7 years ago (for ARM CPUs). The Microsoft APIs have been there for three years. The only new thing is the marketing hype around AI.
I for one would like a local AI assistant of some sort, but I’d also want to be in full control of which of my files, correspondences, locations, contacts, purchases and sex-toys the assistant is aware of on an item to item basis.
Of course that’s not going to happen because fuck my privacy.
Instead we’re going to be forcefed something extremely privacy-invasive, which will really just be a new vehicle for selling stuff to us that we don’t need and eventually it will leak all of the data.
Came here to say this. If I had an AI buddy that could do all sorts of stuff for me and talk about history all day with me on long drives while making sure I was perfectly safe and secure and basically be my best artificial friend…
I’d be riding that train.
you can.make a local ai homeserver and access it remotely from your phone.mahbe even tie it to some automation features idk
Your average smartphone user definitely can’t. I mght, but I strongly doubt it is worth the effort for now.
I will do it some time just for the coolness factor
sex-toys
obviously any ai girlfriend should have full control of all of the sextoys
Nope. It’s getting to the point I don’t even want a smartphone anymore. In fact, I just bought a “dumb” phone and am going to try using that as my daily driver for a month and see how it goes. Should be delivered this afternoon, and I’ll be starting the experiment tomorrow, hopefully.
Imo, the current meaning for AI is just another way for companies to take even more of your data and embed more invasive technologies.
Edit: No thanks
I would if I’d be able to run my own models, it’d be better than having to connect to my server.
But AFAIK these features won’t be available to all developers, so I’m guessing only Google apps will be able to properly use the potential of the phone.The P9 is supposed to have an on-device image gen model that was touted as being able to be used even without an internet connection
Stock-wise you’re stuck with whatever model Google ships it with, but I’m curious to see what happens when they get out in the wild and rooted. With some luck, the model is stored within Android somewhere (as in not on a special chip or something, which I don’t think it is because I saw a video of its demonstration and they had to download and install the model for the initial setup) and might be able to be swapped out/tinkered with with root. Though that’s probably going to take months or longer depending on how it’s configured/protected
On-device stuff? Sure I’ll take it. But not ones that connect online.
Investors/Shareholders. They cum each time they hear the word AI
Except for the people who know what they are doing. As it turns out a lot of actual business people looked at the insane amount of money going into AI and realized it would take a huge return plus potentially decades to break even.
You don’t need to understand “AI” to see that pouring billions into something that doesn’t have a business model could be a bad bet.
Hell no.
I use AI all the time. The ability to select text and images from a screenshot or the app switcher is pretty useful for when apps refuse to implement selection themselves. My keyboard also allows me to type much faster than when I try to be as precise as I need to be with unassisted keyboards. Plus, photos captured without image enhancement look terrible (and nothing like what you’re seeing in real life). Firefox translate has also finally hit Android and it’s been pretty good so far. Google Translate has worked offline for a while as well but it’s not as good as normal Google translate I believe.
I don’t use text generation much (although I do use it accidentally now that it’s replaced Assistant) and the photo editing tools are mostly gimmicks to me, though I can see their actual use.
If Google can give me all of this existing stuff while using less battery life because of the NPU, it’d be pretty happy.
Selecting text from images has nothing to do with AI and predates the AI hype craze.
Err… That’s definitively AI.
AI is just any computer algorithm that does a task that would be aimed to require human intelligence.
Identifying text in an image is a non-trivial task, so OCR is a type of AI algorithm.
That said, I assume “AI phones” are probably not using the term AI in the general sense; presumably they just mean that it uses MM-LLMs somehow.
Wrong. People like you are exactly what is wrong with the overhype in IT
Just FYI, I’m pretty sure you’re confusing “AI” and “AGI”.
Even enemy behavior is videogames is “AI”, but obviously is not “General Intelligence”.
I think the problem is Hollywood confusing the two terms, so people think AI = Skynet, but that’s not the technical definition in Computer Science.
I want a phone that doesn’t blast telemetry everywhere eating my battery. I want a phone that lasts a week between charges. I also want (most) apps to go away and stick to the web so my browser can keep me safe from them.
My favorite e-commerce experience has been at breweries and comedy clubs. Scan QR code, order on web page. Receive SMS to get back to page. Pay on page when done, close tab. Our exchange of information has completed. Maybe they send an email later, maybe not.
Versus apps tracking the status of your colon 24/7.
Not if I have to give up my privacy to use the AI features, which is currently the case for all or these devices.
Want it or not, you’re gonna get it. The industry is going balls deep with it and I doubt AI phones are even the tip of the iceberg. They’re gonna use the shit in everything.
The hardware industry wants to sell new devices. Most software companies just upload your data to the cloud and to the AI magic there (e.g. ChatGPT, Bing Image creator).
I want the original Google Now, because it actually worked.
That and Inbox were peak Google.
I held on to Inbox as long as I could, it was simply better.
You could use DDG or a lot of meta search engines :)
Part of the problem is the Pixel phone, I mean that’s been a problem ever since it came out. Sometimes it’s alright but there’s a lot of people that have bought a Pixel & regretted it. My brother in law being one of many. I can say with relative confidence, Google Pixel phones have had so many problems & lack of support, I’m sure everybody reading this knows somebody with Google Pixel buyer’s remorse. Or maybe they are that person.
This is a well-earned reputation. So yeah I can believe people aren’t jumping at the P9.
The AI part is just another reason to not buy a Google Pixel phone.
I like my Pixel 8 just fine, but I turned Gemini off the minute Google tried to foist it on me. I am also considering just installing Graphene OS instead, which Pixels are pretty good for.
