• Asafum@feddit.nl
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    BuT I HaVe To WoRk FoR mY HoUsE!!

    …yeah? And you get to choose how nice that house is and where it is. You aren’t “forced” to only have a small apartment…

    America: land of the greedy, cold, asshole.

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      Yeah? Well if someone decided to build affordable housing near my McMansion, then my precious house’s market value will decrease. Also something about crime because of the poors

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      I think the issue is that if the government offered tiny houses or apartments for anyone that everyone would want one.

      The value of “free shit” is somehow larger than the value of owning a large mansion or something.

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        And what’s the problem? So what if a whole bunch of single people moved into tiny government houses? Housing is a human right. And it sure would bring rents down.

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        ‘Simple’ solution to that would be to put a time limit on how long you can stay.

        Say maybe 2 years unless you have a medical condition or something. That should be plenty of time for people experiencing hardship to get past it.

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          I think it’d be better with an income limit if that’s possible to check.

          Where I live, the only involuntarily homeless people are generally those who experience longer than 2 year medical or psychological issues.

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            Income limit would lead to people ‘gaming’ the system. Either just misreporting what they actually make or purposefully not making enough to qualify.

            Or it will go just like current systems do - you make one cent over their arbitrarily decided number and you don’t qualify even if you cant actually afford to live.

            It would also screw over people who might have a ‘good’ income, but made honest mistakes and are upside down in debt or similar situations.

            Income limit fosters a ‘you deserve this, you don’t’ attitude which is what we are trying to get away from.

            I just see a time limit system (with exceptions for those who are sick/unable to fully care for themselves) doing a better job of providing a basic human right to anyone who needs it while avoiding a bunch of bullshit an income limit would bring to the table.

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              I just see a time limit system (with exceptions for those who are sick/unable to fully care for themselves)

              Are we putting a time limit on processing who gets that designation? Because federal disability claims are a shitshow that take roughly six months just to get your first denial. And then can take years to go through appeals.

              It’s all just different takes on who “deserves” to live and for how long.

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                Right - but thats a whole other can of worms.

                There is no quick fix or Simple solution.

                Its not like its just one small system that is broken - we have multiple broken systems that need to be torn down and rebuilt because the rot is in the bones.

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            There are major problems with income based limits. In theory they work, but they often break down over time locking people into the poverty they are trying to escape. It creates a grey area where they lose more than they gain by improving their income. Sometimes as much as an hour of extra work can lose them their benefits.

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        I really wish I was cold too. I have to work in an open air factory and long island summers succcccckkkkkkk lol

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            Small world! That’s pretty cool! I wish I could get out, but for the last like 3 years everyone is singing the song of “omg a recession is coming” so I keep waiting lol

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          Do they really call it “iced tea” there? Also that might explain why you feel hot all the time…

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            Yeah if it’s a tea and usually lots of sugar that is kept cold then we’d call it iced tea. I think if it’s like actually “served” at a restaurant or whatever it should be in a glass with ice too so that’s probably really where the name came from. Now if it’s just cold tea we’d call it iced tea lol

            Then there’s the “long Island iced tea” which is a cocktail lol