Shocker, self driving “taxi” service is a nuisance.
Almost like the solution to car based issues isn’t “more advanced cars”, but “less cars”.
Super easy to solve. Just seta geofence of no hooting. There’s a good reason they hoot in the first place, but it’s not needed in that lot.
Video from the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CN8k831Qp0
My super white family is a honkfest. This is just whining because “robotaxis bad”. The sirens here in SF are much worse than this.
But when the lot starts to fill up (which “usually happens at 4AM or so,” according to Tung) what looks like a maddening ballet of autonomous parking — and honking — begins. The noise goes for as much as an hour at a time before it settles down, she said.
Did you read the article? Because that sounds really egregious.
Yes, but that just describes the video if you’re playing it up. Also, firetruck sirens go all night as well.
Not continuously for an hour. I’ve lived opposite an ER and it wasn’t as bad as whats described above. Much louder, but also much less frequent.
In the UK there are actually laws around not sounding your horn at night.
UK sirens aren’t half as obnoxious as US sirens. US sirens are higher pitched and loud enough to given pedestrians hearing damage
For several years I lived on O’Farrel Street, between Hyde and Leavenworth, which if you know SF is basically the middle of the biggest East-West Transit route in the city. There was literally a 24-hour “Owl” bus stop outside our front window. That was noisy, even for SF.
This is right in line with the other spots I’ve lived in the city (SoMa, avenues).
This is right in line with the other spots I’ve lived in the city (SoMa, avenues).
This is definitely normal for SoMA but down at 2nd st is approaching the financial district which is usually a bit quieter at night. I can understand someone who’s just not used to it, or used to living in noisy parts of the city being upset or surprised about it.
But also 2nd/folsom is right at the bridge on-ramp which I would imagine is getting a fair deal of freeway noise 🤷♀️
Idk, this is firmly in the SoMa/ “East Cut”. They just don’t like robotaxis. :P
Looking forward to the “Waymo robotaxis become silent killers stalking the night” headlines once the fix is implemented.
US sirens are too high pitched. European sirens have a lower pitch which allows the sound to travel further which allows them to decrease the volume.
Reminds me of the incident in February where a waymo tried to get through a bunch of street revelers, and their response was to set it on fire. From the old pcmag story :
San Francisco Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson noted that it had tallied 55 incidents where self-driving vehicles had interfered with rescue operations in the city.
Edit: unrelated to above quote, pc mag also says:
In some cases, residents have put orange cones on the hoods of cars, which makes them temporarily immobile.
(see also the autopian story it references)
The article itself sounds a lot more relaxed than the heading suggests.
Nonetheless, this is still stuff for c/fuckcars
Some of the videos of this are really frustrating to watch. Like, what are you trying to do!? You just found your spot, now you’re coming back out?? More circling, stopping, going back, going forward. Uughghhh…
My guess is you’re seeing the computer go into a reject loop until a human operator finally takes over.
