In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like “maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don’t see it on Lemmy.” Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don’t see racism even when they’re looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. … but that wasn’t really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you’ve seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    4 months ago

    You made the accusation, the burden of proof is on you. Here’s what’s going to happen when you ask complete strangers who aren’t vested in what I imagine you think is activism to pour through millions of posts to find behavior you claim exists:

    • The Nexus of PrivacyOPEnglish
      2·
      4 months ago

      I’m not saying to pour through millions of posts, this one and the one I linked to have plenty of examples.

        • The Nexus of PrivacyOPEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          I answered. And there are also some good examples of anti-Blackness in the comments here.

          • danekrae@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            4 months ago

            No you just wrote that I should think about, what a black person would think about the comments in that thread, where I couldn’t find any.

            You wrote: “imagine a Black person reading this”

            How dare you assume my ethnicity…

            • The Nexus of PrivacyOPEnglish
              1·
              4 months ago

              Yes, I answered your question, you just didn’t like my answer.

              If you can’t find them, then (like many people) that’s a sign you’re used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?

              It doesn’t make any assumptions about your ethnicity. If you are in fact a Black person who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse but isn’t seeing it in that thread, it’s still a useful suggestion to step outside yourself and try to reading it as somebody else would,

              • danekrae@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                4 months ago

                And I asked you to help find the examples you rambled about. But no, you didn’t provide any. Because you can’t. Seeing things that aren’t there.

                Actively achieving the opposite of what you want. Unless you are just trolling, in which case, good job…

                • The Nexus of PrivacyOPEnglish
                  1·
                  4 months ago

                  You asked me to help you find the examples and I said no and suggested a technique that might work. It’s an answer, it’s just one you didn’t like. When you told me that you weren’t able to apply the technique successfully, I said

                  Oh well. It sounds like you’ve got some work to do. The revised version of the article has some antiracism resources, so stay tuned.