In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like “maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don’t see it on Lemmy.” Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don’t see racism even when they’re looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. … but that wasn’t really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you’ve seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

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    3 months ago

    I’m not saying to pour through millions of posts, this one and the one I linked to have plenty of examples.

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        3 months ago

        I answered. And there are also some good examples of anti-Blackness in the comments here.

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          3 months ago

          No you just wrote that I should think about, what a black person would think about the comments in that thread, where I couldn’t find any.

          You wrote: “imagine a Black person reading this”

          How dare you assume my ethnicity…

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            Yes, I answered your question, you just didn’t like my answer.

            If you can’t find them, then (like many people) that’s a sign you’re used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?

            It doesn’t make any assumptions about your ethnicity. If you are in fact a Black person who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse but isn’t seeing it in that thread, it’s still a useful suggestion to step outside yourself and try to reading it as somebody else would,

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              And I asked you to help find the examples you rambled about. But no, you didn’t provide any. Because you can’t. Seeing things that aren’t there.

              Actively achieving the opposite of what you want. Unless you are just trolling, in which case, good job…

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                You asked me to help you find the examples and I said no and suggested a technique that might work. It’s an answer, it’s just one you didn’t like. When you told me that you weren’t able to apply the technique successfully, I said

                Oh well. It sounds like you’ve got some work to do. The revised version of the article has some antiracism resources, so stay tuned.