Yes we do. I know guns are unpopular here, but Democrats could never lose another election again if they’d give up on trying to disarm the public.
That’s bullpucky. Trump is not pro-2A, and the bump-stock extension was passed under his administration. As with most things, his position is vague, but mostly catering to monied special interests, as evidenced by how his administration approached 3D printing (the gun industry can’t make money if people can print their own guns at home). In any case, he’s certainly not been a vocal 2A defendant, it doesn’t come up in his rhetorical rants, and his record while in office was wishy-washy at best. This hasn’t made a single iota of difference to his base.
2A is a key issue for many people, but it’s specious to claim it’s the issue that’s deciding a large number of flippable votes. NRA symbols are usually stuck next to a Confederate flag sticker, and that tells you all you need to know about that topic.
2A single issue voters arent necessarily voting for Republicans more so against Democrats running on a platforms of gun control, at least with presidential elections.
And it’s not just about flipping votes by driving turn out. A stance like Harris had of AW ban via executive order would ensure those single issue voters show up and vote for the opposition.
I agree with the comment above on strategy. I don’t think pro gun control voters are going to ditch Team Blue over it either. It’s definitely a flaw with the two party system, but what are they going to do vote Republican?
You’re literally stating that gun owners are usually racist white males…the fuck? There are way more gun owners now than ever and the diversity is no longer the minority.
I don’t think that’s what they mean, they mean that the people who are super hardcore gun rights people would never vote democrat regardless of the democrats stance on gun rights, because in addition to being super hardcore gun rights people, they’re super hardcore anti-all-other-rights people, also known as republicans. Certainly not all of them, no absolutes etc, but the vast majority. People who own guns != gun nuts.
I’m hard core pro2a and will be voting blue this year. I’m a no regulation guy who wants our politicians to fix our society via social safety nets and reform vs prohibition style legislation…there is a lot more of us now than ever
Yes! You’re not the kind of person who they were talking about. You’re the gun owner but not gun nut kind
Yet you put us all in the same gun nut box earlier in this thread…
I’ll most likely vote a straight blue ticket because I agree with most of the Dems platforms except in the issues of gun control. I also can’t stand Trump or his facism and want to see it die.
But I’ll never support Democrats unless they moderate their stance on 2A. I may vote Republican next mid term election to prevent Dems from getting enough votes in the Senate and House to enact anti 2A legislation.
I just tried to provide my interpretation of what they were saying, I didn’t and am not putting… forget it you don’t want to understand what I’m trying to say so I’m not going to bother trying to explain further.
I agree with the right, but Bruen was a trainwreck of a decision. Historical perspective is an absolutely ridiculous basis for determining the outer limits of the right.
Yeah, the issue was it was a direct response to courts deliberately ignoring all other precedents to purposefully deny the right. If you can’t apply scrutiny due to your own personal biases you lose scrutiny.
That’s not really true though. There were very few SCOTUS precedents on the 2A, really just Cruikshank and Presser until recently. Heller really changed it all in 2008, being the first court to find an individual right. And the 2A didn’t get incorporated until 2010 in McDonald.
The issue is that bad precedent is begging to be overturned. I can’t imagine Bruen standing for a long time without being overturned or distinguished by a subsequent case.
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