• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    10% of the people, first of all, is around 800 million people. And secondly, that’s a lot of really hard work that can’t be done just 20 hours a week. I’m in Indiana. I know farmers. It’s not even a 40-hour-a-week job. It’s a sunup to sundown job.

    So sure, everyone gets a break. Except farmers. Who earn the same amount as everyone else but have to work a lot harder.

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      If the required labor was split up more equitably then farmers wouldn’t have to work sunup to sundown.

      The entire point of large scale agriculture is that it’s more efficient than individual peasants working a single field or whatever.

      Nobody is saying that farming isn’t hard work, but modern farming should produce more food per man-hour than neolithic farming (or hunter/gathering), right? So why should it be that farm workers now have to work harder than prehistoric people?

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        So why should it be that farm workers now have to work harder than prehistoric people?

        Do they? Because what has been said so far is that hunter-gatherers didn’t work as hard. Or do you mean pre-agriculture prehistoric people? Because agriculture predates written history by thousands of years.

        Once we started farming and herding, the work was harder. But also necessary. That’s just how things are.

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          The question I am posing is not “do modern farm workers labor harder than prehistoric hunter gathers” (they do).

          Instead, the question is “should modern farm workers labor harder than prehistoric hunter gathers”.

          Farming is more efficient than gathering. That’s why we farm. So why is it the case that modern farm workers are working harder?

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            Because feeding eight billion people isn’t related to how many hours of work individuals have to do in order to achieve that unless you don’t have enough people to do the work.

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      I agree with but for one thing. If we doubled the farm workforce then each farmer wouldn’t have to work as hard. And we certainly have another 800 million people to throw at it.