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North Dakota voters will decide this fall whether to eliminate property taxes in what would be a first for a state and a major change that officials initially estimate would require more than $1 billion every year in replacement revenue.
Secretary of State Michael Howe’s office said Friday that backers submitted more than enough signatures to qualify the constitutional initiative for the November general election. Voters rejected a similar measure in 2012.
Property taxes are the base funding for numerous local government services, including sewers, water, roads, jails, deputies, school building construction and teacher salaries — “pretty much the most basic of government,” said North Dakota Association of Counties Executive Director Aaron Birst.
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Lmao. Dumbasses.
That’ll show them socialist fascist commie lefty groomers.
“What do you mean we have no police,fire,schools,water,roads? What happened?”-- dumbasses who ended property tax at the urging of the wealthy
Oh this is curious! Cause the solution would be for those services to be privatized. I wonder how many would pay for those services.
“No, Jimmy. You don’t need to go to skool. Now go change bale the hay.”
Sure thing daddy-brother!!
gets mangled in the baler because he’s an idiot then dies because they closed down the firestation and first responders
What do you mean putting out the fire in my house costs me $25k?
Traditionally, privatized services like that just took the house.
What do you mean we have no police,fire,schools,water,roads?
Somehow there’s always money in the banana stand for more cops.
State created a sales tax to replace it.
“Why are my groceries so expensive!!!”
Look what happend to kansas after they cut taxes like that. Libertarianism fails faster than communist countries every time.
Is it they got a two term Democratic governor and asserted to not amend the Kansas constitution to specifically state abortion wasn’t included?
There definitely are better taxes than property taxes. But, since it’s a red state, they would probably replace it with a worse one. Or just debt.
It’ll probably be replaced with sales tax increases. Sales taxes are very well-known to be regressive.
Or think of “low-tax” Texas, where every other road is privately operated and charges tolls out the ass.
Even ignoring privatized services, taxes in Texas are higher than California for the average person. It’s a total myth unless you belong to the upper class.
Hence why “low tax” is between quotation marks
“Every other road…” serious [citation needed] there. I live in San Antonio (you know 6th, largest city, metro of 2.2m people) and there’s not a single toll road. Austin, Dallas and Houston have a few but it’s by far not every other road. You can get around on 10, 35, 45 and the corresponding ring roads just fine.
Also the property taxes here are quite high compared to a lot of other states, but as such there’s no state income tax.
I live in Austin and they’ve built a toll road bypass to the interstate, added toll lanes to loop 1, and now they’re adding them to 183.
Lt. Gov Dan Patrick is on a crusade to end property taxes and replace them with…🤷♀️
Sales tax benefits residents more in states with high tourism like CA, FL, NY. But ND? Lol
This would be great if it eliminated property tax for primary residences or something like that. Everything else is a handout to the wealthy.
Another red welfare state making it worse
This is a terrible idea, property taxes are better than pretty much all of the alternatives
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The short answer is economic efficiency - when we tax land we’re not discouraging useful behavior. Any other tax also reduces your income and in doing so undermines your ability to meet your basic needs while also adding more friction into the economic system that you use to do so.
They’re replacing it with Land Value Tax, right? Right?..
Or sales tax, or something else. High taxation and misuse of taxes is bad, but taxes themselves support the infrastructure everyone uses. So if they get rid of this, something else is going to have to take its place unless the property tax was way too high.
I thought we’ve seen what happens when you don’t have blended tax sources.
But surely, this time, it will work?!
That is a terrible idea if you want a functioning government.
That is a great idea if you want government to fail.
Property taxes are the base funding for numerous local government services, including sewers, water, roads, jails, deputies, school building construction and teacher salaries — “pretty much the most basic of government,” said North Dakota Association of Counties Executive Director Aaron Birst.
I guess if that’s really what they want to defund, then go for it, but don’t expect any federal dollars.
Whatever they will come up with will be regressive and mostly affect poor people.
Once the most socialist states in the country…how far we have fallen. It is a politically sad place now.
Huh, didn’t know that they still have a state run bank up there.
https://news.prairiepublic.org/show/dakota-datebook-archive/2022-05-22/socialism-in-north-dakota
It is a politically
sadbad place now
I went through the middle and western part of the state last year, and almost everyone we met was angry af and weirdly entitled. Having been in Minnesota the week before, it was like night and day.
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I think everyone is ok with property taxes. What homeowners hate is increasing property tax. It should be a flat rate for everyone that doesn’t increase with the exception being on non residential properties.
Ok, I’ll bite.
How is a state meant to keep up with inflation if property taxes don’t increase to compensate?
And do you mean to say that property taxes on a mansion situated on several acres should incur the same flat rate as a 1000 square foot home on a quarter acre?
The increase should be capped at inflation. Currently mine go up 10% every year. I pay more in tax than I ever paid in rent. I’ll have to buy a tent in another decade at this rate.
And where are you?
