• greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works
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    Move onto land that isn’t yours

    Cause the people to fight back

    Hide as others battle in a war for you

    Get mad when policy changes and you have to fight

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        The reports from the British colonial forces are clear. The Isrealis pushed the British out and attacked the Palestinians.

        And you don’t get to occupy someone for 70 years, refuse them rights, refuse to let them have a state, or properly annex them, and then be surprised they want to kill you. This is like Hitler calling the Warsaw Ghetto Jews the violent ones.

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            Oh wow that is a lot, it’s going to take some time to read through that. Especially since we’re starting off by jumping straight into the racist colonial ideology deep end. The British just had to take control of the area because the locals weren’t capable of governance. A tale told in literally every colony state ever and as false in all of them.

            Saying the British left of their free will is hilarious. They left of their own free will in the American Colonies too. It’s okay we can let them keep some dignity right? It’s not like they left after a major terror campaign or anything.

            And the Locals wanted the settlers from the colonialist regime gone too? Oh wow that’s like super evil.

            And now you’re going to tell us they’re different conflicts. The Israelis have never stopped committing acts of war. It’s all the same conflict.

            The Israeli “militias” were absolutely comprised of settlers. The main pro settler organization was buying the supplies. They were unapologetically Zionist from their founding in 1939.

            The Palestinians in the occupied area haven’t started a dang thing. They’ve been reacting since the British took it upon themselves to play colony with them.

            Arab Israelis live a separate but equal life. They have the same rights in the exact same way Black Americans did. Just with less official rules to point at.

            And yeah you kind of need Israel’s permission when they actively prevent elections, and assassinate government officials at will. It’s okay though, Gaza didn’t need a head doctor for their hospital system.

            Hamas and Fatah are actually in the middle of historic talks right now. And they had a peaceful election until Israel intervened.

            The PLO is not responsible for Israel keeping the West Bank and Gaza in limbo. There is no carve out for, “they look mean”. You either annex them or go home and now days even annexation is going to require a majority vote. That ship sailed around the 1970’s.

            For all the “woe is me” and “all Palestinians are terrorists responsible for everything bad” propaganda here, just stop. This narrative is fucking tired. We have the Internet now. We have cameras. We have data, and memories. This isn’t the 1980’s when you’d get a single news paper article as the information source. You can’t contain this and you can’t lie your way out of it anymore.

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        never any sovereign nation called Palestine prior to the end of the British Mandate of Palestine

        free Philistine then idgaf

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    Netanyahu’s going to need a much bigger military for whoever he goes to war with next. Because they’ll have an actual trained military force to go up against.

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        Let’s see Israel do it without an endless supply of American shells and bullets. They publicly said they couldn’t do Gaza without it. Let’s try Syria, or Iran. Should go well right?

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            You mean, “oh shit a politics guy whose actually studied the region”. But that’s okay I get why you’re confused.

            Especially with the Soviet connection. Israel maintained it was not aligned and received aid from both great powers until the Korean War in which it supported the UN and the US. After which it steadily moved further into the American sphere of influence. So there was one war before it became aligned and it received aid from both countries during that war. Turns out the Russians didn’t like the idea of Pan Arabism anymore than the Americans.

            And I’m not cheering for anyone. I’m just wishing you good luck without an external source of supply.

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