What’s the best way to respond to this kind of brazen cruelty?
Voting is a must. Political apathy is how this stuff happens. Outside of voting, just being vocal about your distaste for these policies might help let people around you know that not everyone supports this. And if you come face to face with someone who is outspoken in their belief that some children deserve to starve, then you know who to avoid being around.
More people voted for trump after his disastrous 4 years in office than did when he first got elected. I don’t think voting is the answer because we are stupid. Educating these idiots would go a long way, but they don’t believe in education. Being controlled by their extended, daily, two minute hate is all they seem to know or want.
I taught at a couple school where the majority of the students got their only 2 meals a day when at school. And these fuck heads think that’s too much. It makes me sick.
Voting is the answer (at least part of the answer) because it’s what kept Trump out of office for another four years despite him getting all those votes. Now even more of Gen Z is voting age, as long as they vote like they did in the midterms conservatives don’t have long in office. They’ll have some gerrymandered strongholds like Texas and Florida but things should slowly be getting better now that more and more of the conservative voters are dying off either from old age or COVID.
Seriously these past midterms were historic, this millennial loves Gen Z lol
That’s not helping the many people being screwed over by anti-trans and anti-abortion bills, or with all of the anti-worker crap the republicans and the dems (albeit to a lesser extent) have been implementing. I’m worried it’s going to be too late for a lot of people by the time things get good (not just better, actually good without 50 million horrible things going off constantly; not perfect, but not constantly under peril). Well, if they do. And of course there’s the matter of climate change. I’m worried it’s gonna be too late by then as well… ~Cherri
That’s not helping the many people being screwed over by anti-trans and anti-abortion bills
A cure all does not exist unfortunately and I don’t know of any solutions for the affected minorities in those areas other than leave when possible. Which is easier said than done I know, I did it with my move out of Texas.
I’m worried it’s going to be too late for a lot of people by the time things get good.
It likely is going to be too late for many groups of people, I don’t like that reality but it’s true. This is the shit situation our generation was given and we just have to do our best to improve it as best we can for future generations. We can only do that by fighting and not letting apathy take over.
And of course there’s the matter of climate change. I’m worried it’s gonna be too late by then as well.
Too late for what? For the environment to change? That point passed decades ago, unfortunately. We’ve been at the pollution game for a while. Too late to mitigate as much damage as possible? Absolutely not. The best time to plant a tree is yesterday but the next best time is today. Our planet is changing due to the actions of the old and it’s on us to adapt as a society. We adapt by changing policies and we change policies by getting involved in politics, the easiest form of which is simply voting.
The future is going to be rough and certainly not what I would’ve chosen, but it’s not untenable or unconquerable.
I mean like too late to mitigate it enough for it to not destroy the environment completely. And most of the pollution is not from individuals but from corporations. I mean hell, most pollution from airplanes comes from private jets. Commercial passenger planes don’t do nearly as much damage as those (though they do quite a bit of damage and should be limited where possible). ~Cherri
I mean like too late to mitigate it enough for it to not destroy the environment completely.
Except that’s not a thing, it’s impossible for the environment to be completely destroyed. Even when a forest turns to desert the desert is still an environment that can be adapted to and improved on. The world as we know it will change dramatically, that’s just something that’s unavoidable at this point. But we can help make the next version of this world the best we can.
As long as you’re alive it’s never too late to take action.
Yes, that’s part of the changing world. Not something I’m happy about but something we can’t change. There are projects sequencing their genome so that we can hopefully clone/revive the species at a later time however. So there are things that can be done to mitigate even those changes. Not a perfect solution but it’s something.
If you truly believe there’s no hope and we can’t do anything to change it then I implore you to follow your own word and don’t bother commenting doomerisms since it doesn’t help anything.
If you want to give up, fine. Just do it by yourself. I’m going to keep fighting as long as there’s life in this body.
Gerrymandering should have no impact on the Senate or the Executive elections, aside from the subressive effect. We still vote for geriatric vampires more often then not, and those geriatric vampires really, really can’t let the new, fresh people have positions of power. We’ve seen that happen over and over with those who should be stars (effective stars) in Congress. I understand completely that it’s better than the fucking Republicans, but it’s kind of like picking what method you’re going to die from. I think you’re vastly underestimating the deplorable factor in the US. For once though, finally, it does seem like these younger generations are making a hard turn to do the right thing. I hope it pays off, just on a pragmatic level I think we’ve already passed the point of no return so I’m just watching the world slowly burn.
I think you’re underestimating the effects of old generations dying off while simultaneously a supremely motivated younger generation is coming in. I’m not saying it’ll be smooth sailing and that voting alone is the answer, I’m saying we have to keep fighting and voting is part of the answer. It’s not the silver bullet that will solve everything but we can’t move forward with fascists in office so we have to vote them out.
Don’t give my opinions too much value. I’m older and am just worn out. I remember talking to my mom (she’s almost 90 now, pre-Boomer, super progressive) about this topic a couple years ago. She said when she was younger, all her friends talked about how once the older generation dies off, things would change. She brought that up because I was talking about how I was hoping that when all these old geriatric vampires die off, things would change. It’s like old people bitching about back in my day…
I’ve pretty much become comfortable with the fact that the job, that of being a politician, just attracts the worst people, regardless of age. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, and for once it does seem like the younger generation is not following lockstep with the previous generations. Maybe because things have become so bad, it’s impossible to fall for the same bullshit that my generation did. I do hope things turn around.
But as the old saying goes, you can shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.
If only the only other option weren’t also trash. Then wouldn’t be so much voter apathy. The system is literally designed to be this way. The US being a democratic country is a myth. The founders never even intended it to be a democracy. They just wanted it to be their own little club. Plebs were never even meant to be able to vote.
The “other side” (Democrats) are still picking your pockets and laughing with rich buddies, but they aren’t for letting children go hungry, get married early and work for minimum wage in all their free time. All the while getting upset at rainbows and whatever the scapegoat of the week is.
We’ve been trying to vote and vote for decades, haven’t we? When’s it gonna work out? How do we make sure it’s not too late for a lot of people by then, and/or too late to deal with climate change by then? ~Cherri
It is working out, if I am not mistaken, each setback the republicans suffer slows them down in making the US more awful, it is just hard to notice. The political system is trapped in a two-paty-system where both parties are corporate puppets. Without a new Ross Perrot there is no hope of changing that.
It’s really hard to convince people that voting matters. And in many places, the districts are set up in such a way that it favors a certain party’s outcome.
Republicans seem to be more popular with older people, who also are more likely to be voting. Younger people are much less likely to participate.
Personally I’m pretty sick of it all myself. I still vote though. I just wish that it wasn’t all about arguments between parties and we could focus on what’s best for people.
Voting is a must. Political apathy is how this stuff happens. Outside of voting, just being vocal about your distaste for these policies might help let people around you know that not everyone supports this. And if you come face to face with someone who is outspoken in their belief that some children deserve to starve, then you know who to avoid being around.
More people voted for trump after his disastrous 4 years in office than did when he first got elected. I don’t think voting is the answer because we are stupid. Educating these idiots would go a long way, but they don’t believe in education. Being controlled by their extended, daily, two minute hate is all they seem to know or want.
I taught at a couple school where the majority of the students got their only 2 meals a day when at school. And these fuck heads think that’s too much. It makes me sick.
Voting is the answer (at least part of the answer) because it’s what kept Trump out of office for another four years despite him getting all those votes. Now even more of Gen Z is voting age, as long as they vote like they did in the midterms conservatives don’t have long in office. They’ll have some gerrymandered strongholds like Texas and Florida but things should slowly be getting better now that more and more of the conservative voters are dying off either from old age or COVID.
Seriously these past midterms were historic, this millennial loves Gen Z lol
That’s not helping the many people being screwed over by anti-trans and anti-abortion bills, or with all of the anti-worker crap the republicans and the dems (albeit to a lesser extent) have been implementing. I’m worried it’s going to be too late for a lot of people by the time things get good (not just better, actually good without 50 million horrible things going off constantly; not perfect, but not constantly under peril). Well, if they do. And of course there’s the matter of climate change. I’m worried it’s gonna be too late by then as well… ~Cherri
A cure all does not exist unfortunately and I don’t know of any solutions for the affected minorities in those areas other than leave when possible. Which is easier said than done I know, I did it with my move out of Texas.
It likely is going to be too late for many groups of people, I don’t like that reality but it’s true. This is the shit situation our generation was given and we just have to do our best to improve it as best we can for future generations. We can only do that by fighting and not letting apathy take over.
Too late for what? For the environment to change? That point passed decades ago, unfortunately. We’ve been at the pollution game for a while. Too late to mitigate as much damage as possible? Absolutely not. The best time to plant a tree is yesterday but the next best time is today. Our planet is changing due to the actions of the old and it’s on us to adapt as a society. We adapt by changing policies and we change policies by getting involved in politics, the easiest form of which is simply voting.
The future is going to be rough and certainly not what I would’ve chosen, but it’s not untenable or unconquerable.
I mean like too late to mitigate it enough for it to not destroy the environment completely. And most of the pollution is not from individuals but from corporations. I mean hell, most pollution from airplanes comes from private jets. Commercial passenger planes don’t do nearly as much damage as those (though they do quite a bit of damage and should be limited where possible). ~Cherri
Except that’s not a thing, it’s impossible for the environment to be completely destroyed. Even when a forest turns to desert the desert is still an environment that can be adapted to and improved on. The world as we know it will change dramatically, that’s just something that’s unavoidable at this point. But we can help make the next version of this world the best we can.
As long as you’re alive it’s never too late to take action.
A lot of species are going extinct faster than new ones are popping up. ~Cherri
Yes, that’s part of the changing world. Not something I’m happy about but something we can’t change. There are projects sequencing their genome so that we can hopefully clone/revive the species at a later time however. So there are things that can be done to mitigate even those changes. Not a perfect solution but it’s something.
If you truly believe there’s no hope and we can’t do anything to change it then I implore you to follow your own word and don’t bother commenting doomerisms since it doesn’t help anything.
If you want to give up, fine. Just do it by yourself. I’m going to keep fighting as long as there’s life in this body.
Gerrymandering should have no impact on the Senate or the Executive elections, aside from the subressive effect. We still vote for geriatric vampires more often then not, and those geriatric vampires really, really can’t let the new, fresh people have positions of power. We’ve seen that happen over and over with those who should be stars (effective stars) in Congress. I understand completely that it’s better than the fucking Republicans, but it’s kind of like picking what method you’re going to die from. I think you’re vastly underestimating the deplorable factor in the US. For once though, finally, it does seem like these younger generations are making a hard turn to do the right thing. I hope it pays off, just on a pragmatic level I think we’ve already passed the point of no return so I’m just watching the world slowly burn.
I think you’re underestimating the effects of old generations dying off while simultaneously a supremely motivated younger generation is coming in. I’m not saying it’ll be smooth sailing and that voting alone is the answer, I’m saying we have to keep fighting and voting is part of the answer. It’s not the silver bullet that will solve everything but we can’t move forward with fascists in office so we have to vote them out.
Don’t give my opinions too much value. I’m older and am just worn out. I remember talking to my mom (she’s almost 90 now, pre-Boomer, super progressive) about this topic a couple years ago. She said when she was younger, all her friends talked about how once the older generation dies off, things would change. She brought that up because I was talking about how I was hoping that when all these old geriatric vampires die off, things would change. It’s like old people bitching about back in my day…
I’ve pretty much become comfortable with the fact that the job, that of being a politician, just attracts the worst people, regardless of age. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, and for once it does seem like the younger generation is not following lockstep with the previous generations. Maybe because things have become so bad, it’s impossible to fall for the same bullshit that my generation did. I do hope things turn around.
But as the old saying goes, you can shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.
If only the only other option weren’t also trash. Then wouldn’t be so much voter apathy. The system is literally designed to be this way. The US being a democratic country is a myth. The founders never even intended it to be a democracy. They just wanted it to be their own little club. Plebs were never even meant to be able to vote.
The “other side” (Democrats) are still picking your pockets and laughing with rich buddies, but they aren’t for letting children go hungry, get married early and work for minimum wage in all their free time. All the while getting upset at rainbows and whatever the scapegoat of the week is.
The sad part is that for the americans to do good, they have to vote democrat. I am glad I don’t live there.
We’ve been trying to vote and vote for decades, haven’t we? When’s it gonna work out? How do we make sure it’s not too late for a lot of people by then, and/or too late to deal with climate change by then? ~Cherri
Not voting is not a choice, because then these bastards get even more power, it is a sad reality.
That doesn’t answer any of my questions. ~Cherri
It is working out, if I am not mistaken, each setback the republicans suffer slows them down in making the US more awful, it is just hard to notice. The political system is trapped in a two-paty-system where both parties are corporate puppets. Without a new Ross Perrot there is no hope of changing that.
So it’s not working out. The way you’re putting it just sounds like this is hopeless and delaying the inevitable. ~Cherri
You can’t get more power than all of it.
As of now democrats controll the senate.
The elite control the everything.
It’s really hard to convince people that voting matters. And in many places, the districts are set up in such a way that it favors a certain party’s outcome.
Republicans seem to be more popular with older people, who also are more likely to be voting. Younger people are much less likely to participate.
Personally I’m pretty sick of it all myself. I still vote though. I just wish that it wasn’t all about arguments between parties and we could focus on what’s best for people.