• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Man if we could close the gap in Georgia or North Carolina that would be great. We’d have a much higher chance then.

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      5 months ago

      I’m way, way, way less worried about those states than I am MI, and WI.

      MI and WI should lnt even be competitive for Trump. The speech was a good start, we’re gonna need actual action to bring Muslim voters back into the fold.

      The black community has rallied around Harris in a way not seen since 2008. I’ve got too much day job work rn, but my first pass on some data says “fuck it, shoot for Florida too”. Obama won Florida twice and Trump really only won it in the margins.

      But without WI and MI, it’s all for naught.

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        5 months ago

        There’s not much policy action she could take. Other than the words, she’s probably going to meet with community leaders, but there’s really not much more she can do on that front.

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          5 months ago

          She’s still part of an administration that can do policy. The job of president is a purely rhetorical position. Her job is and will be to move people to policy positions.

          If she can move Joe Biden to a better policy on Gaze/Israel, she wins this election.

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            5 months ago

            That’s not how that works. Biden has very real power, not just rhetorical. For example he can deploy the military wherever he wants for 60 days. He can direct an agency to only do half of it’s job. (Trump famously removed all the furniture from the office meant to help people find immigration detainees) If you’re not American then think of him as a prime minister/CEO. The Vice President gets a portfolio from the president. Without that their only job is to break ties in the Senate and stay alive.

            Some administrations have had a division of labor for whipping votes, but that is primarily the job of the party whip and leader for each chamber.

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              Agree to disagree on the power she has, and I know very, very well how all this works.

              I think you are failing to appreciate the role of rhetoric in leadership and politics and how things actually work. The job is ENTIRELY rhetorical and the job of the President is to move public opinions in specific ways toward policy positions they want them to take.

              Everything after the rheotoric is an afterthought.

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                5 months ago

                Rhetoric is a tool. But the powers of the presidency go well beyond them. A think tank spokesman is a rhetorical position. The president is a CEO. And I doubt you have the inside scoop on their specific working relationship. If you did and you were posting about it here then it would be news.

                Saying she has to move Biden or else she’s complicit is just trying to guilt her by association. The only concrete thing she could do is resign and that’s political suicide in the US.