In her first campaign rally as the presumptive Democratic nominee to face Donald Trump, Vice President Kamala Harris took aim at her Republican rival and a widely derided Trump-linked platform that provides a blueprint for the next GOP administration.

“Donald Trump wants to take our country backward,” she said in remarks from Milwaukee on Tuesday, just two days after President Joe Biden ended his re-election campaign and endorsed his vice president.

Harris, who secured enough delegate pledges to clinch the Democratic Party’s nomination within a little over 24 hours after announcing her candidacy, linked Trump to Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation-backed plan for his administration, and one that his campaign is now furiously trying to distance itself from.

“He and his extreme Project 2025 agenda will weaken the middle class. We know we got to take that seriously,” Harris said. ”Can you believe they put that thing in writing? Read it. It’s 900 pages.”

The plan proposes cuts to Social Security and Medicare, tax breaks to corporations that will force “working families to foot the bill” and abolishes the Affordable Care Act, which “will take us back to a time when insurance companies had the power to deny people with preexisting conditions,” Harris said.

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    Did Biden ever even really talk about 2025? I’m loving that this is one of the very first places she goes and I hope she just presses hard on it non-fucking stop what’s in it

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      the heritage foundation has been putting out a project 2025 like document since 1980 and nearly 75% of all of the recommendations have been enacted by both democrats and republicans since then, including biden.

      biden didn’t talk much about project 2025 because, if you looked into it, you’ll find that biden was a big proponent of the 1980’s & 1990’s versions of the project 2025; so it was politically advantageous that he pretended that it never happened and he never did it to ensure a distinction between him and maga stayed present in today’s political discourse. the same is true with gay marriage; lgbtq in federal service; student loans; segregation; feminism; etc. and i bet that’s why he dropped out.

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        I would just like to point out that this is an example of the tried-and-true rhetorical technique of shrugging off issues with a dismissive “that’s not new.” We see politicians and spokespersons do it all the time, because, maddeningly, it works.

        But, it doesn’t actually matter whether it’s new, does it? Couple things: The Heritage Foundation has put out a similar document every election cycle for decades, but the contents have changed; this iteration could be (is!) much, much worse. Even if Heritage had been putting out the same plan all along, and we didn’t object then, well, we can still object now. We don’t have to keep making the same mistakes in the future just because we made them in the past.

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    I’m legitimately curious how many people have actually read their document. I just started the other day and I’m about 100 pages in. I’m glad to see people are starting to realize the amount of coordination going on within the far right. Straight up playbook for stacking the cards and consolidating power to the executive branch. Borderline unconstitutional type stuff.

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      I’m confused… They did it on cameras on Jan 6th… why are some Americans still blind to it. Do they know they can listen to the trump tapes!?

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        No you see, that was their crazies, and even though they support their crazies, you shouldn’t do guilty by association.

        Having said that, I’ve been going on far right forums and it’s mostly guilty by association. They find a very obviously wrong “leftist” and claim that anyone that calls themselves a leftist has the responsibility to keep all those wearing the label in check.

        Their logic doesn’t even work cause, I could just use another label, doubt they would allow me to self identify though.

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      I read some but I had to stop after it started talking about the deep state, when that’s the whole point of p2025. A right wing deep state. The 180 proof, acidic nature of the irony melted my face and I could no longer see.

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      the heritage foundation has been putting out a project 2025 like document since the 1980 and both republicans and democrats (biden included) have enacted around 75% of the recommendations so far; conservatives continuing this tradition is status quo for the united states.

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    So now that Project 2025 is unpopular and Trump is trying to distance himself from it, has anyone else found Trump’s lack of campaign promises kind of strange? Leading up to the 2016 election he made a ridiculous amount of promises. Mexico building a wall, bring back coal, lock up Hillary, repeal and replace Obamacare, balanced budget. This time around it’s very different. I can’t think of any promises he’s made. Could it be he doesn’t want to mention the promises he failed to delivered on or maybe Project 2025 is exactly what he has in mind?

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      I’m starting to think that he doesn’t care whether he wins or loses. He has a horde of sycophants following him that he can continue grifting off of from now until the end of his days.

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        I think he cares more about humiliation than almost anything else, and he sees winning as the only way to avoid not only the humiliation of losing the election but also the humiliation of facing any consequences at all for his many crimes.

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        I’m sure he cares. If he wins he can make many of his problems go away. On the other hand win or lose he can share his stake in DJT and be a billionaire. Doing so would screw over a lot of people so I doubt he will do that if he wins.

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      It doesn’t matter. His voters believe that he’s the guy that somehow kept all the promises he made.
      Reality doesn’t really matter.

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        I like to assume it’s related to all the lead released into the environment. The populations IQ went down 5 to 10 points due to lead poisoning from leaded gasoline in the 20th century so someone could turn a fat profit at the cost of humanity’s cognitivity. Critical thinking is harder than it used to be.

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      His campaign promise is to turn America into a dictatorship. He doesn’t need the heritage foundation or anyone else’s input on that.

      His voters want it SO bad. Totalitarianism comes from this exact social situation over and over in history.

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      She seems to be doing fine, but she needs to watch out for acting giddy like she gets.

      She can really act drunk sometimes.

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        If you think expressing any emotion other than bigoted hate and manufactured outrage = “drunk”, then you’ve been watching too much Fox News. Of course, it’s no surprise that the MAGA crowd just assumes that anytime a woman laughs, she must be drunk.

        Keep it classy

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          Come on man, do we always have to do the blanket denial? I’m voting for her, but she acts goofy as shit sometimes, not just “laughs a lot” or a woman laugh.

          Lighten up, we can talk about things here, we’re among friends. Not everything is off limits.

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            Maybe someone that expresses a little authentic human joy is exactly what the American public needs right now.

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              And exactly the sort of thing that terrifies sociopaths. That’s why they’re freaking out about it. They so rarely experience joy that they think there’s something wrong with it.

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              The explosion of support she’s getting says you’re correct.

              She’s absolutely killing it, and I think her energy and positivity are a huge part of why.

              I was planning on giving an unenthused Biden vote just as a “please not Trump” vote. I’m now planning on an excited and hopeful vote for Kamala!

              She represents a much, MUCH needed turn away from the dumpster fire we’ve let our political system become.

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              Well you’re still my friend. Let me know if you need to talk about anything, or have a bad day. I’d be happy to just listen.

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                You don’t really understand the word “no” do you or when people just aren’t that into you?

                Creepy

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            You think it’s “goofy as shit”, I think it’s honest and refreshing. It’s nice to see a politician (especially a woman) who can let out a belly-laugh once in awhile.

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        God forbid a politician enjoy life and laugh. I like how human she acts. It’s nice seeing a politician who knows how to enjoy herself

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        Women just can’t win huh. If they police their emotions and try to be neutral, they come across as bitchy and unlikeable like Clinton.

        If they’re genuine and open about how they feel, they’re giddy and acting like they’re drunk.

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        Remember when Howard Dean “yeeahhhharrrrgfh” ed? In excitement.

        Glad we avoided that.

        Remember when trump said “bing ding ding ding boom psheen pfoom”? To explain missile tech.

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            Trump gets a pass because his voters don’t care. Harris’s voters shouldn’t care, either.

            Caring about dumb shit like that is part of the reason why Democrats have been losing elections.

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      I definitely feel better having a presumptive nominee who actually seems to give a fuck about stopping the fascists instead of this idiocy:

      I’ll feel as long as I gave it my all and I did the good as job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about.

      Because holy fuck I was real fucking concerned he was going to sleepwalk us into a fascist government taking over after that shit.

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      First time in a long time I’ve actually been optimistic about the 2024 election. I generally vote for policy, not people. But I’d be excited to vote for Kamala Harris if she’s the eventual Democratic nominee. No doubt.

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    As I said, Trump is totally ignorant of the Streishand Effect here. Which he used to tremendous effect before.

    AND of his own strategy of “mention you don’t support something, repeatedly, as a sign you low key support it.”

    Now he’s actually trying to say he doesn’t support something, and it’s like he’s totally forgotten his own history.

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      Everyone knows he lies like most people breath anyways. His only position is whatever gets people to cheer and clap for him so he gets his narcissistic fix, or the last person to talk to him that stroked his ego the right way. The people who will actually to do stuff in his administration definitely want 2025, and that’s what matters. I’m only a neighbor of the US but a country that implements 2025 is a scary one to be next to.

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    “Project 2025 will weaken the middle class.”

    Project 2025 will destroy the middle class. It is a guide to creating a Judge Dredd universe where the only people living in it will be the Super Rich and Super F*cking Poor. They’re not even trying to hide it.

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      And the Judges are theofascists. Imagine Judge Dredd showing up and going, “You dishonored your mother and father by being gay. Punishment for that offense is death.”

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          I don’t understand how pointing out that an account that is obviously a troll breaks this rule. If that breaks the rule and gets removed it will foster more disinformation on this site, which is problematic. We can’t allow fresh accounts to spread baseless information and moderate those who call it out.

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            Attacking other users isn’t cool. You can counter what they’re saying without attacking the user.

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              So every time a fresh account vomits 3 paragraphs of obviously extremely biased, probably outright lies, and spams all over a thread we have to engage with them instead of just saying fuck off and pointing out they’re a troll/shill/bot/whatever? Just so we’re clear.

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      I’ve got a little while until I do my psychiatry clinical rotation in school, but I feel like interviewing you to hear about your theories and perceptions would make for a fascinating case report.

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          I’ve worked in ERs before and dealt with a lot of mental health patients in crisis. I’ve met some schizophrenics that have been off their meds and on street drugs for months in the middle of a complete psychotic break that still have a better grasp on reality than some of these folks.

          (To be clear, they were in that situation because they lost their job, home, and health insurance, so they had no way to access the medication that had kept them stable previously, and the street drugs were an attempt at self-medication.)

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      Here’s something Lemmy doesn’t have, why is this the second highest parent comment? Reddit would have buried it.