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    I heartily agree. I’m also an omnivore, raised on a farm. The best meat is the meat you raised or hunted yourself, both ethically and taste wise.

    The respect I have for the animal I personally kill for sustenance is the closest an atheist like myself will ever get to religion. I respect the lives of animals to sustain mine as a human, and I know if I raised it or hunted it, it had a much better life and will taste better than any meat you’ll see at a Wallmart.

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      This makes me angry. You murder a creature for your pleasure. You do it against her will. If she could talk she’d beg you for her life, if she could fight back she would. Talking about respect in this violent relationship is self-righteous, cynical and speciesist bullshit. Like talking about respect after raping a child. The best pussy is the one you hunted yourself, right?

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        Wow, like you’re pretty warped. Here we are with the rape stuff again. Raping children, no less.

        You need to do some thinking. That line of argument isn’t effective.

        You’re claiming this crazy shit and the above person and myself are actively working minimize the suffering of animals.

        Go touch grass and pet a dog.

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          Why crazy? It is a very accurate comparison:
          Having sex and eating food is a core pleasure baked deep into our brains. We can decide what to eat and who to have sex with and we can use force to get what we want. It’s a taboo to rape and a taboo to kill. Animals can’t fight back like adult humans because they are innocent and often don’t understand the situation they are in, just like children.
          Not seeing the similarities is because specisism and carnism are normalised to us in every aspect of our lifes since we’re born. Watch the videos, I’m not fighting you. If you want to minimize the suffering of animals, leave them alone! It took me quite some time to figure this out as well.

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            I’m currently working outside my old home, preparing it for sell. Taking a break right now.

            A little old lady just stopped to grab things I’m sitting by the road for picking. She has a daughter and grandkids that are running from abuse. They’ll be getting a bunk bed and dressers from us. She likes pigs, we have pet pigs. I’m sitting aside some pig figurines that my girl left behind. One is a birdhouse that is full of piss ants, an invasive species. I poisned the fuck out them because they need to die. They’re varmints.

            I have a rat problem I’m dealing with due to the cat moving and a bag of feed being left behind. I’m using poison, traps, and a gun to kill the varmints.

            I’m not going to take the time to watch whatever videos you’re suggesting. Eating meat isn’t rape. That is a stupid argument you shouldn’t use. It is killing. I’m comfortable with killing.

            I’m likely way more in tune with nature, animals, and trying to minimize my impact on the earth than you ever will be. Some of your ideology is poisonous and you are sick from it.

            Humans have canines and binocular vision because we are omnivores. Meat and killing can be ethical, it’s just difficult.

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              You’re comfortable with killing because you’re not the one whos throat is being slit.
              I would argue that your idiology is way more poisonous and harmful than mine. If you don’t want to watch anything, you can read the transscript here.
              Who’s got the most impressive canines? You know what they eat?

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                The woman in that picture has some very minor canines.

                The cat has some big ones.

                Walking out of a unsuccessful deer hunt, I had an encounter with a mountain lion. Hissed and growled it away. Like totally a peak life experience. It was thinking about eating me and I convinced it otherwise. Did pull my pocket gun in fear.

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                  This is seriously an impressive story. It is not a great point for killing sentient beings for your selfish pleasure though.

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        For hunting, would you prefer the animal overpopulation starve, get torn apart over hours by predators, or get hit by a car, killing people? A hunters bullet is one of the fastest deaths a wild animal will get.

        If plants you kill to eat, the trees that became your furniture and home could talk, they’d beg too. So would the termites, bedbugs and lice, viruses and flesh eating bacteria.

        Lastly are you nuts?? Eating a steak isn’t child rape, that’s insanity lmfao

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            Since eating is just like fucking, do you fuck the pumpkin pie at family dinner?

            Also, nice job addressing 0 of the things I said. Keep that vegan rep strong!

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              Haha, no, I don’t fuck pumpkin, do you even get what I’m trying to say?
              Did you look at the Bullshit Bingo? It addresses everything you said, because you’re not the first one to come up with it. It’s a collection of a hand full of replies I hear all the time. I answer them all the time. I even looked up the # so you don’t have to go through the rest of the bullshit.

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      Damn skippy. I’ve learned I’m an atheist with a pagan heart.

      I’ve found that I must be hunting something when I go in the woods or on the water. Animal, vegetable, or something else. Don’t care if I actually kill, catch, or find; there just has to be a goal. I love taking other people and helping them get in tune with the world.