He could forgive it all as an “Official Act”
Republicans would fight it and SCOTUS won’t let us have nice things.
Oh damn, well 'spose should never try to do anything unless the Republicans agree with it.
At least if he tried, he might win the election.
he litrally did try that which started this whole thing…
He didn’t have a supreme court decision saying the president can do whatever they want as long as it’s an official act then.
The president can simply begin killing SCOTUS judges until the court has a liberal majority.
But that opens the door to Republicans doing the same thing, which they would NEVER do otherwise (unless they felt like it).
So the Dems are powerless and the GOP has unlimited power.
Do that, have the new justices reverse the previous decision. Implement corrections to prevent such a thing from happening again. Problem solved.
This is like the 5th attempt at this. Of all the things to accuse him of not trying to accomplish, student loan forgiveness is not one of them
For real. As someone who stands to benefit from student loan forgiveness, and has been following this from the start, it’s actually very impressive how much effort this administration has gone through to continue to find other means to do so. He’s forgiven (at least) tens of millions of dollars since the SCOTUS shut down the official program.
Most would have just given up there, but they have been fighting hard for this, and I wish people gave them more credit for this.
“6-3 decision; now students owe double the money directly to SCOTUS. we accept Paypal”
It would depend on lower courts to decide if it’s official or not
It would get appealed to SCOTUS regardless of any lower court decision
Well he would not be liable to criminal prosecution, but that says nothing of whether the loans have to be forgiven upon his declaration.
The immunity just stops him from facing personal legal consequences and only after SCOTUS confirms any crimes were committed during an official act. How do they test for that? They haven’t said and will make up reasons to help/hurt whoever they want on a case by case basis.
Are there laws Biden could break that would force loan forgiveness, and would the current supreme court side with Biden? Seems like no in both cases aside from more Seal Team Six arguments resulting in a new set of SCOTUS judges ruling on such orders. Biden ain’t the guy to make that happen.
“These 35,000 borrowers approved for forgiveness today are public service workers - teachers, law enforcement officials, and first responders who have dedicated their lives to strengthening their communities and because of the fixes we made to Public Service Loan Program Forgiveness, they will now have more breathing room to support themselves and their families,” President Joe Biden said in a White House statement.
Justice Delayed is Justice Denied
What about the rest of the US? Biden made sure again to take care of police first.
These shitheels are perfectly fine with the handouts given through Pedo Trump’s PPP loan scam though.
I didn’t get my pony, so fuck them!
This is the Biden administration making the program do what its supposed to. If that’s cause for celebration, somethings wrong
We can be happy for the people this helps. Isn’t that enough? Does everything have to be viewed through a “the universe hates us all” lens?
The fact that teachers, firefighters, and EMTs sandwich cops in that sentence but you chose to zero in and pretend Bidens only helping cops shows you have a major bone to pick and you’re just choosing to be upset, lol.
teachers, firefighters, and EMTs sandwich cops in that sentence
I know a few teachers and one EMT. None of them have received anything close to a police officer’s salary since Biden took office.
None of them have seen their workforce balloon or received billions of dollars in surplus equipment from the military/national guard, either.
pretend Bidens only helping cops
My city spends something in the neighborhood of a quarter of it’s annual budget on the police. And our veteran Democrat mayor came into office complaining that we don’t have enough cops and they aren’t paid enough.
This isn’t just a Biden issue. The entire party is Blue Lives Matter to the fucking gills.
I know a few teachers and one EMT. None of them have received anything close to a police officer’s salary since Biden took office.
Just to be clear my claim was just that this action to the student loan forgiveness program benefited teachers cops, firefighters, and EMTs, but they instead chose to ignore everyone else benefiting and just choose to get angry at Biden that cops are included.
As you’ve surmised, what you’re seeing is likely due to local, not federal politics.
As a contrarian anecdote, my democratic local government removed qualified immunity for cops, and established a set of unarmed cops for non-life threatening work like minor traffic violations. I’d say that provides equal weight to your anecdote showing that the entire party is not blue lives matter.
this action to the student loan forgiveness program benefited teachers cops, firefighters, and EMTs
Cops receive substantially more support and benefit than a marginal amount of student loan forgiveness.
This goes to wages and overtime, housing, medical, retirement… Teachers and EMTs don’t enjoy anything comparable. Only firefighters come close, and their departments are dwarfed by comparison.
This seems like a tangential point.
My point is that Biden did not prioritize police like the other guy was saying - they’re eligible for loan forgiveness alongside teachers, EMTs, and firefighters, and they were trying to criticize this development by portraying it as prioritizing cops, which isn’t the case.
If anything, as you point out, the other careers make less, therefore loan forgiveness like this proportionally helps teachers, emt, and firefighters MORE, because the flat amount of loan forgiveness is a bigger proportion of their salary. Roll into this the fact that teachers typically have to get a graduate degree, and I’m thinking that this action largely benefits teachers, not cops, who don’t need degrees for their work.
My point is that Biden did not prioritize police
The Safer America Plan is a $37B budgetary proposal to hire 100,000 new police officers, to provide training to existing officers, and to integrate offices between cities and states for a tighter domestic surveillance network. This goes above the original $10B in the American Rescue Plan for police and associated public safety programs, passed the year earlier.
Show me the equivalent proposal for education, emergency medical, or fire prevention.
If anything, as you point out, the other careers make less, therefore loan forgiveness like this proportionally helps teachers, emt, and firefighters MORE
“We paid you less so you should be thankful for these crumbs” is some powerful neoliberal bullshittery.
“We paid you less so you should be thankful for these crumbs” is some powerful neoliberal bullshittery.
Sure, sure, spin it how you want, but since this particular act helps groups a, b, and c, getting into a hissy fit and claiming that group b is being put first is blatantly wrong. Do you disagree that this probably helps teachers more than cops?
teachers, law enforcement officials, and first responders who have dedicated their lives to strengthening their communities
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things does the exact opposite of “strengthening their communities”…
First responders also includes firefighters and paramedics.
Don’t let your broad-brush hatred of cops blind you to things of value.
teachers, law enforcement officials, and first responders who have dedicated their lives to strengthening their communities
Don’t let your boot licking reflexes blind you to what is actually being said
Interactions like the one you two are having are why I think we’re going to lose in November
Is it the nominee that’s wrong?
No it must be the voters.
How many cops you think are going to college?
That’s irrelevant, I’m not the one who made the list.
So, what? If you’re a cop you shouldn’t be allowed to have student loan forgiveness but all other first responders do? Public workers are public workers dude. They’re first responders whether we like it or not.
Yeah I’m sure law enforcement officers are really struggling out there…
