• Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
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    Finally some good news.
    Please vote for Trump, if you don’t care about internal politics - think about millions of Ukrainians who are trapped in Ukraine right now, and for whom Trump’s presidency (and his promise to end the war) is the only hope to survive!

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      Hahaha right. How is serving Ukraine on a platter to the Russians somehow ending the war? Because that’s what that felon child rapist’s plan is, to have Russia win the invasion that they started.

      I wonder if you come across a kid being raped like trump raped kids, would you say, “just let him finish inside you and stop resisting?” Wait nvm I’m sure that’s exactly what you would say seeing as how you support that child rapist.

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        Trump didn’t say he will “serve Ukraine on a platter to the Russians”, he said he will force both sides to negotiate. Negotiations is how the wars end.

        The rest of your reply is just baseless accusations which people resort to when they don’t have any logical arguments ;)

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        Is calling Trump a fuhrer and a Nazi really not ironic to you, considering all the documented Nazism in Ukraine (our main “hero” that we rename streets after and so on is Stepan Bandera, now please go and read a wikipedia page about him. After that, please ask a fellow Pole what they think about that great guy) that Biden is supporting?
        So logically speaking it’s Biden who looks like a Nazi, but let’s hear your arguments why you think otherwise. Of course provided that you have any, and “Nazist” is not just a mean word for you that you call people who disagree with you :)

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          There’s lot of documented Nazism in Ukraine

          Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine

          Therefore trump cannot be a nazi despite his plan to implement ‘Project 2025’

          You have the logical abilities of squirrel shit

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            I didn’t really look into ‘Project 2025’ as it seems to be mostly about internal American politics, which I’m not too interested in.

            Your only argument seem to be ad hominem :)

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              Ad hominem is to attack the persons character. I clearly stated that your logic is squirrel shit.

              Any parties manifesto in the majority, will be about internal politics, but those policies will ultimately impact their relationship with external countries and shape what their foreign policies will be. You would have to be a fucking imbecile to think otherwise. (Again, not an ad hominem before you start wanking yourself into a lather)

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                From the wikipedia:

                Often nowadays this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

                You’re seem to be fitting the definition quite well ;)
                Saying that your argument is not ad hominem and backing it up with another ad hominem unfortunately doesn’t change that it is.

                But okay, let’s talk about logic then if that’s what you want!

                I’ve asked folks to vote Trump to save people’s lives that are currently being murdered thanks to (among others) that “great” guy Biden.
                You called Trump a Fuhrer and Nazi (without backing it up with anything at all at that point).
                I pointed out that it is ironic calling Trump a Nazi, while you are (presumably) supporting Biden who is quite literally supporting Nazi government.
                You’ve made a conclusion (and even framed it as a quote) that I’ve said “Therefore trump cannot be a nazi despite his plan to implement ‘Project 2025’”, despite neither me saying “trump cannot be a nazi” nor you even bringing “Project 2025” into the discussion beforehand.

                Well, from that I can only make a conclusion that you have “logical abilities of squirrel shit” :)

                And getting back to your argument - supporting a Nazi government seems to be a way better indicator of being a Nazi than some “Project 2025” 🤷‍♂️

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        Well, feel free to ridicule this take, what’s wrong with what I said?
        If Biden is elected again, the war will continue and hundreds of thousands more people will die, that may include my friends and my family and people I know.
        If Trump wins, there might finally be peace.
        Are you saying that if you were in my situation, and the people getting murdered/wounded were people you know, and not just people that you’ve heard about only from the TV, you would still root for the guy who will make sure as many of them dies as possible (as long as it hurts Russia as well) instead of the guy who says he will end the war?

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            Yeah, I’m not surprised by accusations of lying :)

            You know what would really surprise me? Anyone actually disproving anything I say instead of just using ad hominems.
            You’ve reported my message as “Blatant disinformation” - it must be very easy to disprove such blatant disinformation, I wonder why you didn’t do it and instead prefer to use insults?.. Hm…

            EDIT: I see your message was deleted :( To be clear - I didn’t report it or anything, I’d very much enjoy seeing you disprove the “blatant misinformation” I posted.

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              You’re a fucking monster, there’s a special place in hell for people like you.

              Whoever deleted that post can eat shit too. Way to support this disgusting bullshit.

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                Ah I see, so when you say that I post “blatant propaganda”, you don’t mean that I post information that is false, you simply mean that you dislike it. Gotcha :)

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                Oh and I forgot to add

                Way to support this disgusting bullshit.

                ^ This is what Biden voters think about saving lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people - “disgusting bullshit”. Those are definitely the good guys that deserve your vote :)