My favorite conspiracy theory is that Trump was never the assassin’s intended target. It was Mr. Comperatore that Corey was after, for some personal grudge, and Trump just happened to get in the way.
They were both from PA. Crooks could easily have known Mr. Comperatore.
In all seriousness, though, all respect to Mr. Comperatore and sympathy for his grieving family. And I don’t actually believe this was anything other than what it appears: right-wing violence turned against itself, and both an incompetent shooter, and incompetent Secret Service security. Trump got lucky on both counts: he survived an attack, and has a perfect campaign photo.
He gets some positive credit for being a retired fireman, and in any case, having contemptible opinions is not justification for a death sentance.
The guy was a bystander, and an unlucky one. I’m sure he has people who loved and will miss him. It’d have been better if the shooter hadn’t missed… several times.
Unless I’m actually accidentally right and Trump wasn’t the target, which would be still sad but a little funny, too. Really, it’s depressing that Crooks was that terrible a shot.
You’re on a roof stressed the fuck out, you hear something behind you and realize it’s a cop and you’ve been spotted, you point your gun and the cop falls off the roof. You spin and fire as fast as possible so as to still have the chance of doing what you came for. But alas, stress, adrenaline, and lack of skill has foiled your plans.
No I’m not defending the guys choice, or saying I could do any better in his position.
Probably. I wasn’t a sniper, but I consistently qualified Expert in the Army. The shooter was at 200m; Army qualifications include hitting targets out to 300m, with limited time. So, yeah, I think I’d have done better.
I certainly would have chosen a different rifle than an AR15 for sniper work. I’d have picked .308 or .30-06 - both of which are extremely common hunting rifles - decent sights, and a good zero. And take the body shot: the guy’s twice as big as one of the Army pop-up qualification targets, a head shot is way harder.
My favorite conspiracy theory is that Trump was never the assassin’s intended target. It was Mr. Comperatore that Corey was after, for some personal grudge, and Trump just happened to get in the way.
I highly doubt it - right-wing politics don’t really work like that. When Verwoerd (of Apartheid-fame) got assassinated, no such thing happened. It barely happened after Mussolini got offed. It certainly didn’t happen when Shinzo Abe bit the bullet.
I’d say that if Trump died it would have done a lot more than simply dent the whole “sturm und drang” bs the far-right has been peddling - it would have been a real setback for them. I think the post is correct - it’s got Trump and his high-up wannabe-bootlickers in the GOP rattled. Only time will tell how much, though.
Shinzo Abe was no longer in power, and his assassin turned himself in, with evidence of Abe’s corruption and proof that Abe had essentially tricked the assassin’s mother into committing a slow suicide. That was always going to Garner sympathy in a culture that literally worships their ancestors.
Pretty much this. Nobody else has really stepped into the role because despite a lot of outright fascist politicians existing, very, very few of them have the charisma or forceful confidence of Trump. That is the X factor: Trump throws 1000% of himself into any statement, no matter how minor, and preens and brags about every last thing. He doesn’t back down, he doesn’t acknowledge defeat, he doesn’t even acknowledge if he’s outright wrong. He is the archetypical firehose of falsehood, and people love him because of it.
I can’t see anyone - not Vance, Haley, Ventura, ANYONE - outclassing the sheer tidal wave of personality that Trump has cultivated around himself in the political sphere.
He dreamed he was walking along the beach with the Lord.
Across the sky flashed scenes from his life.
For each scene, he noticed two sets of footprints in the sand:
one belonging to him, and the other to the Lord.
When the last scene of his life flashed before him,
he looked back at the footprints in the sand.
He noticed that many times along the path of his life there was only one set of footprints.
He also noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest times in his life.
This really bothered him and he questioned the Lord about it.
"Lord, You said that once I decided to follow you,
You’d walk with me all the way.
But I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life,
there is only one set of footprints.
I don’t understand why, when I needed you most, you would leave me."
The Lord replied,
“My son, My precious child, I love you and I would
never leave you. During your times of trial and
suffering, when you see only one set of footprints,
it was then that I Carried You.”
My favorite conspiracy theory is that Trump was never the assassin’s intended target. It was Mr. Comperatore that Corey was after, for some personal grudge, and Trump just happened to get in the way.
They were both from PA. Crooks could easily have known Mr. Comperatore.
In all seriousness, though, all respect to Mr. Comperatore and sympathy for his grieving family. And I don’t actually believe this was anything other than what it appears: right-wing violence turned against itself, and both an incompetent shooter, and incompetent Secret Service security. Trump got lucky on both counts: he survived an attack, and has a perfect campaign photo.
I’m not sure Mr. comperatore is worthy of your respect, judging by his social media history.
He gets some positive credit for being a retired fireman, and in any case, having contemptible opinions is not justification for a death sentance.
The guy was a bystander, and an unlucky one. I’m sure he has people who loved and will miss him. It’d have been better if the shooter hadn’t missed… several times.
Unless I’m actually accidentally right and Trump wasn’t the target, which would be still sad but a little funny, too. Really, it’s depressing that Crooks was that terrible a shot.
Oh I’m not saying he deserved this. I’m more commenting that I might stop short of respect.
Fair point. I could have chosen a better adjective.
Really? You could do better?
You’re on a roof stressed the fuck out, you hear something behind you and realize it’s a cop and you’ve been spotted, you point your gun and the cop falls off the roof. You spin and fire as fast as possible so as to still have the chance of doing what you came for. But alas, stress, adrenaline, and lack of skill has foiled your plans.
No I’m not defending the guys choice, or saying I could do any better in his position.
Probably. I wasn’t a sniper, but I consistently qualified Expert in the Army. The shooter was at 200m; Army qualifications include hitting targets out to 300m, with limited time. So, yeah, I think I’d have done better.
I certainly would have chosen a different rifle than an AR15 for sniper work. I’d have picked .308 or .30-06 - both of which are extremely common hunting rifles - decent sights, and a good zero. And take the body shot: the guy’s twice as big as one of the Army pop-up qualification targets, a head shot is way harder.
God damn what a despicable person!
I’m positively shocked the man at the fascist rally wasn’t a good person.
Well, not that shocked
About as shocked as I am the sky is blue
Mr. Monk and the Candidate
I mean, fuck Trumpsac with a rusty pineapple sideways, but: we’re all lucky he survived; the Reichlings would’ve made a martyr of him.
I highly doubt it - right-wing politics don’t really work like that. When Verwoerd (of Apartheid-fame) got assassinated, no such thing happened. It barely happened after Mussolini got offed. It certainly didn’t happen when Shinzo Abe bit the bullet.
I’d say that if Trump died it would have done a lot more than simply dent the whole “sturm und drang” bs the far-right has been peddling - it would have been a real setback for them. I think the post is correct - it’s got Trump and his high-up wannabe-bootlickers in the GOP rattled. Only time will tell how much, though.
Shinzo Abe was no longer in power, and his assassin turned himself in, with evidence of Abe’s corruption and proof that Abe had essentially tricked the assassin’s mother into committing a slow suicide. That was always going to Garner sympathy in a culture that literally worships their ancestors.
Since when has that ever phased right-wingers?
Japanese people are not a monolith - stop treating them as one.
Maybe we all could use a bit more time at the range.
No arguments from me.
Pretty much this. Nobody else has really stepped into the role because despite a lot of outright fascist politicians existing, very, very few of them have the charisma or forceful confidence of Trump. That is the X factor: Trump throws 1000% of himself into any statement, no matter how minor, and preens and brags about every last thing. He doesn’t back down, he doesn’t acknowledge defeat, he doesn’t even acknowledge if he’s outright wrong. He is the archetypical firehose of falsehood, and people love him because of it.
I can’t see anyone - not Vance, Haley, Ventura, ANYONE - outclassing the sheer tidal wave of personality that Trump has cultivated around himself in the political sphere.
My favorite conspiracy theory is that this is evidence Trump has quantum immortality.
God I hope not
That’s ridiculous. He’s got Toonforce.
Please no, such a sad, unfun man should not have that kind of power, maybe Alex jokes tho, he’s already a character
Quantum? I thought the theory was theocratic immorality (ie. God didn’t want him to die, so he didn’t)
One night a man had a dream.
He dreamed he was walking along the beach with the Lord. Across the sky flashed scenes from his life. For each scene, he noticed two sets of footprints in the sand: one belonging to him, and the other to the Lord.
When the last scene of his life flashed before him, he looked back at the footprints in the sand. He noticed that many times along the path of his life there was only one set of footprints.
He also noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest times in his life. This really bothered him and he questioned the Lord about it.
"Lord, You said that once I decided to follow you, You’d walk with me all the way. But I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life, there is only one set of footprints.
I don’t understand why, when I needed you most, you would leave me."
The Lord replied, “My son, My precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I Carried You.”