WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Speculating on an event that has already occured is not a “life or death situation” in the way spreading information that discourages the use of life-saving vaccines is.

    • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldM
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      4 months ago

      Given the state of American discourse right now, I’m going to hard disagree with you there.

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        4 months ago

        So you’re making moderation policy based on an assumption that people who have been exposed to the idea that the shooting may have been staged are more likely to incite violence than people who haven’t been? You don’t have source for that stance do you? One could argue that believing it is a failed assassination attempt would also incite people to violence. If a comment in particular calls for violence, thats one thing, but what you’re saying is not logical.

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          4 months ago

          No, we are not. Our sidebar rules are posted and have not changed, nor have the rules of Lemmy.

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            4 months ago

            You said you are restricting discussion on whether the assassination was staged because it is a life or death situation. You have not provided compelling evidence that one form of speculation is more or less “life or death” than another.

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              4 months ago

              No, we did not. We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation. We are requiring sources for life or death claims, and we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

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                4 months ago

                We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation.

                we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

                So one, like I said, it’s not really a life and death situation. And secondly, in the immediate aftermath of an event, practically everything is speculation.

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                    4 months ago

                    So you’re kind of just imposing your opinion about the “life or death” situation thing. I see tons of posts advocating trans-medicalist views, that I would consider a life or death situation… but the comments removed are the ones using appropriately harsh language to call them out.

                    And yes, esp w the recent news that the shooter was a conservative. It makes sense to speculate.