• anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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    You dont have to vote for either. after losing a few elections they will either fade off into obscurity or be replaced by an actual party that serves the interests of the working class

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      Cute. You think that we are going to get another fair election if Trump is voted in.

      It’s obviously a Biden vote from me. But if the Democrats really think they can improve their candidate by switching this late in the game… As long as they don’t cause Trump to win I’m happy.

      But I’m more than willing to vote for the nice but senile man who will keep voting possible moving forward. So changing candidates doesn’t actually win you my vote. And if you change the candidate to someone too extreme (Like Bernie Sanders), you seriously risk losing my vote.

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        Not that the comment you’re replying to isn’t dumb as hell, but…

        And if you change the candidate to someone too extreme (Like Bernie Sanders), you seriously risk losing my vote.

        You’d really fucking welcome fascism over Bernie Sanders?

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            I’m fucking Republican. I’m an antiTrump Republican.

            Who ever said I was moderate? But I have values and Bernie is too far for me. I get that maybe I’m too far right… But it is important to note that Biden easily has my vote right now, as do a fair number of other Democrats.

            Just don’t fuck it up with a far left candidate and I should be fine voting on your side this election.

            I can see why Biden pisses some of you liberals off. But Biden has done a lot of good for my particular ideologies. Helping Ukraine, keeping US Foreign policy active (in particular: countering China and protecting the Seas from Houthis), without becoming too far left on any major issues. I probably can accept a minor amount to the left of Biden and still vote for Democrats.

            I get that progressives want something else but frankly I disagree with y’all fundamentally so there’s not much you can offer me on the far left.

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          They would have to first realize that we are already a fascist country, then they would defend blue fascism just as long as they don’t get red fascism.

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              Yeah because this queer Mexican communist has so much privilege. It’s those that are upholding the status quo that’s doing the most harm to the marginalized, the ones that they claim they’re trying to protect

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                Yeah because this queer Mexican communist has so much privilege

                Quite apparently, considering how many minorities you’re throwing under the bus so you can roleplay.

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                  The people throwing the marginalized under the bus are liberals every election year, when they are promptly forgotten about until the next election when they are brought out as human shields to defend against shitty politicians. They are worse then republicans since republicans are openly hostile

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                    The people throwing the marginalized under the bus are liberals every election year, when they are promptly forgotten about until the next election when they are brought out as human shields to defend against shitty politicians. They are worse then republicans since republicans are openly hostile

                    Jesus. You enjoy your privilege, buddy. Some of us have to live in this world. Or die in it.

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        You would rather let Trump win than vote for a progressive.

        Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.

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          You’re welcome.

          It needs to be said because yall keep forgetting where the moderates are in this country. I don’t think its reasonable to push for a socialist candidate around here.

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            It needs to be said because yall keep forgetting where the moderates are in this country

            Being massive hypocrites about “no matter who” mostly.

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              I’m sorry but not sorry that I have values that your picks would violate. But you can be just like the far right fascists and ignore my needs if you want.

              Traditionally, far left Marxism and far right fascism are both the enemies of the USA. So I don’t like either. I recognize that Lemmy leans left though so maybe you’ve forgotten the place of the political ideology in the great scheme of ideologies.

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            Except when those “socialist” policies are actually explained to those people, then they support those policies. While continuing to vote directly against them.

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              You pretend like Bernie-bros haven’t been trying to explain his policies to me for 20 years. Literally over 20 years now.

              But maybe one more post on the internet might help. Who knows?