Abigail Disney, the granddaughter to Roy O. Disney, who cofounded The Walt Disney Company, told CNBC on Thursday that she plans to withhold donations to the party she has funded for years until Biden drops out. The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite calls for him to do so.
“I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high,” Abigail Disney said in a lengthy statement to CNBC. “If Biden does not step down the Democrats will lose. Of that I am absolutely certain. The consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire.”
And this is the reason why the democratic party does not respond to the interests of the working class. The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys. This time those voices are aligned, but if next time they are not, the voice of the super rich will be the one they hear instead of yours.
With all these calls for him to drop out, there would need to be a viable replacement that could ensure a win with a four month campaign. I’m concerned that it’s just as risky to change the horse this close to the race.
It’s not a bad idea. His “scandal” won’t mean shit next to Trump’s. I’d still like to see some polls of his potential before we start calling for Biden to step down.
You ignore that scandals only matter to Democrats. Like Trump said, he could murder someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters. Meanwhile, Al Franken does something in poor taste and gets cancelled.
Democrat’s scandals matter very much to republicans. They drag everyone through the mud that doesn’t have the cleanest west, and it works.
At least it would be funny, in a good way.
There is no dropping out, and there’s no replacement. All political donations have been to the Biden campaign, it is illegal to transfer those funds to a new candidate. The only person who could run for president in his place is Kamala, since she is the other person on the ticket.
It’s extremely clear no one talking has any clue how any of this shit works.
I don’t think there is.
I think a person who should be in the running for president needs to have some name-recognition but also be non-polarizing which unfortunately is hard to find in combination. There are some names floating around like moving the candidacy to Kamala Harris, but… I feel like a lot of people don’t like her. Which shouldn’t matter but I think a lot of people base their voting on “would I enjoy sitting down at a dinner table with this person and could I speak candidly” and don’t look into the actual political standpoints of that person, so likeability more than anything.
I’m not American, but I still feel a slightly vested interest in the outcomes of the elections because the outcome of the US election will shape global politics and even more than that in the next coming years, especially if Trump and his fascist cronies take control. But my point being is that I don’t know every single name in American politics, but I would say your average American voter probably knows as much as me, and the names that people know about are usually the polarizing ones that wouldn’t have a chance of winning. The Democrats are sorely lacking a strong candidate with a name that can rival Joe Biden in name-recognition without being polarizing.
Joe Biden is too old, but he has good people around him so I could see him doing 4 more years while doing MORE to find a good replacement for him would be the best thing for the US.
There have been several polls of Kamala vs. Trump. She barely surpasses Biden in some when the poll brings “fitness” into question, and polls worse than Biden in experience. That’s the real problem.
You right. I think it’s reactionary nonsense to be calling for him to pull out of the race without a stronger candidate on the bench.
Polarizing is not a problem. Trump is polarizing.
the working class cannot afford democracy
They don’t hear you now. Just because you’re asking for the same thing doesn’t mean your opinion matters.
The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys.
Has there ever been a time, place, or political system where this was not always the case?
Waiting for the communists to jump in confidently incorrect.
Yet another liberal straw man.
Let me guess, what comes after a liberal gets scratched again?
There you are.
Political parties that pay more attention to their voters than to the rich? Yes, many. Parties that fulfill that and are electorally successful? None or almost
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If you haven’t seen Abigail Disney’s documentary about Disney, you really need to…
The American Dream and Other Fairy Tales - Official Trailer - https://youtu.be/9XnX5LNjeAg
Abigail Disney looks at America’s dysfunctional and unequal economy and asks why the American Dream has worked for the wealthy, yet is a nightmare for people born with less. Using her family’s story, Disney explores how this systemic injustice took hold and imagines a way toward a more equitable future.
Don’t they pay their park employees shit? Maybe she should “explore” that as part of this great philanthropic work.
The Disney family no longer owns or controls Disney Megacorp, AFAIK. It’s an independent company run in the usual way now.
Criticizing Disney’s pay and worker rights is literally Abigail Disney’s claim to fame.
Maybe lower the prices at her theme parks, then?
She doesn’t have any role in running the parks. I don’t think anyone in the Disney family does anymore. They’re just a megacorp. Abigail Disney criticizes the Disney Corp all the time. Mostly about worker conditions, pay, and obscene CEO pay rather than ticket prices.
I don’t think she’s the Disney in charge.
The last Disney to actually be in charge of the company was her father.
Democratic party keeps screwing itself.
If they didn’t go against the main support of their party and chose a super unpopular Hillary over Bernie Sanders in 2016 then Bernie would have been wrapping up his second term as president and we would have some young blood flowing into the party. They would also have a completely different looking supreme court. They had something special going on in 2016 and they disenfranchised alot of young voting people that election.
Instead its a slow death March, and they don’t even seem to be fighting it…
Ah yes, the unpopular Hilary who won both the primary against Bernie Sanders and the popular vote against Donald Trump, but was hated by conservatives and Reddit.
People really fall for this narrative hook line and fucking sinker every single fucking time, huh?
Just keep repeating it, and it becomes even better than reality
We keep biting the hand that feeds. Biden administration gives us four years of progressive policy and we can’t wait to hate it.
Humanity is so fucking unbearably stupid.
Y’all truly make it very hard to not just despair.
ANYWAY, to anyone that wants the world to be incrementally better instead of plummetingly worse, go fucking vote. Not a protest vote, a real grown-up vote.
Hillary won the primary by orchestrating the other candidates to drop out and unite behind her, when it showed Bernie was starting to win. Exercising her dynasty power (since we are talking about heirs) to pressure the delegates into a swift pro establishment decision.
Clinton is a far right war hawk by other countries standard and still a war hawk by US standards.
Also it is not something new to the US system, that the popular vote is not the all deciding factor, so blaming it on the voting system, especially after 8 years of Dem presidency and before that 8 years of Hillary god damn husband being president in the 90s is laughable.
Biden administration gives us four years of progressive policy and we can’t wait to hate it.
Record deportations, building Trumps wall, funding genocide in Gaza… Meanwhile not enacting any change to protect the US political system from Trump, after January 6 and just glossing over it as some singular event never to happen again, instead of understanding it as a clear sign of deep systematic issues that need urgent addressing.
You and i have very different understandings of what is progressive.
Bernie lost in the same way the Republican party shafted the primary against Teddy Roosevelt. If you have the apparatus you are the kingmaker.
Bernie didnt play their game, Hillary had control of the game. From easy primary questions to ‘voting’ groups falling inline with Clinton by the democratic party.
Undemocratic primaries are a systemic failure of the American voting system.
I sense a replay of 2016.
why the fuck would I listen to a heiress
Must be nice not to have any stakes in all this
If you live on planet earth unfortunately you do have stakes in it. The US is still powerful enough to influence the life of everyone around the world.
All the wealthy Plutocrats have seen this was a great opportunity to steal the nomination from the people.
Well steal it more anyway.
Nomination from the people? We never had a choice in the first place.
You just have got to love progressives ability to be their own quest enemy.
“Oligarchy bad, until they agree with me”
Not sure what article you’re reading, but this one didn’t seem to imply the reason for ceasing donations was being against oligarchy. So I’m not sure what point you’re making?
He’s making a strawman
So I’m not sure what point you’re making?
That the influence of the ultra-wealthy on elections is derided by some until an ultra-wealthy donor is found who agrees with them.
Isn’t the push behind Biden “making the best of a bad system”? Which seems to be exactly the same sentiment behind “I don’t like the oligarchs but it’s useful that they agree with me.”
Isn’t the push behind Biden “making the best of a bad system”?
Unless the ‘bad system’ is the opinions of the US electorate, no.
You think Biden is a legitimately good candidate and not just worth rallying behind to stop Trump?
No, I think Biden is the candidate who has the widest support in the electorate, which is why he’s worth rallying behind to stop Trump.
That’s literally “making the best of a bad system”
You don’t like the choice you’re making, but you’re picking what you perceive as the “least bad”.
And just like that, you found an oligarch you don’t like.
Too late. Guy could literally peel over next week and they’d be screwed. He should have never agreed to or have been allowed to run a second term and IF he does get elected for a second term I guarantee you he doesn’t survive it. not from some nafarious plot or what have you but simply due to…well…look at him.
But I got no dog in this fight. I’m in Canada. and although my elderly parents live in the US and I do worry about them with this election there’s nothing I can do. It’s like watching an oncoming ship wreck and you’re just screaming at the passangers (US citizens) to get off the boat, get on the life boats, save themselves while you stand on land not being able to do anything but watch. I imagine the rest of the world feels the same way.
I mean i’m worried for you guys, like truly worried.
These wealthy people don’t want Trump because they aren’t christofascists, but they don’t want Biden because he was starting to get into trust busting.
That’s one way to get these rich fucks out of politics…
Is he making the greatest mistake of his career?
