There is no viable plan or solution for full-blown socialism to replace our economical or political system. It’s been pretty much unanimously agreed to be a bad idea.
Vibes and mysticism, lol. Do you have an actual point? None of what you said here is true or backed up by anything.
The only people that seem to be suggesting it as a viable option are college kids and washed up economists that no one takes seriously.
Definitely not true, and again not a real point, nor is it backed up by anything.
America adopting pure socialism is a dream many have that will never happen.
Back to vibes and mysticicm.
Can you explain the why or how of any of what you just said? It’s all vibes.
ROFL… so, you accue me of “vibes and mysticism” for saying that socialism is a failed experiment- which is pretty much accepted as fact if you take 30 seconds to look, yet offer no proof that it could work aside from some shit paragraphs worshipping an antisemite’s theories on how to achieve a perfect system?
Nope. That’s not how this is going to work. You have to provide your own nonsense and let me attack the sources and poke it full of holes with long drawn out nonsensical rebuttals and paragraphs of quotes from my long dead theorists before I let you do the same….
ROFL… so, you accue me of “vibes and mysticism” for saying that socialism is a failed experiment- which is pretty much accepted as fact if you take 30 seconds to look, yet offer no proof that it could work aside from some shit paragraphs worshipping an antisemite’s theories on how to achieve a perfect system?
Yes, you are operating on vibes and mysticism. You keep saying phrases like “pretty much accepted as fact” without referencing anything factual to point to. Additionally, as discussed in another comment, Marx was of Jewish descent and advocated for the liberation of Jewish people, and wrote a hit piece on the writer of The Jewish Question, which was one of the most antisemetic works of his time.
Nope. That’s not how this is going to work. You have to provide your own nonsense and let me attack the sources and poke it full of holes with long drawn out nonsensical rebuttals and paragraphs of quotes from my long dead theorists before I let you do the same….
I have listed sources previously in this thread that I recommend you read. Since I doubt that will actually happen, I’ll have to ask you what you genuinely mean by “Socialism doesn’t work,” because clearly you don’t care about metrics like Life Expectancy, Literacy Rates, Housing Rates, median hours worked, and more.
Okay dude. I said I’m not arguing this with to. And I said there are no VIABLE working models that show socialism working in America.
What is a “viable model of Socialism working in America?” Are you asking for a think-tank to model Socialism for you, or are you just saying Socialism can’t work because you say it can’t, despite historically working?
And if anyone reason along wants to know what a pure socialist system will do to America, just look at what happened in Bulgaria
Why look at Bulgaria, specifically? What does Bulgaria share in common with the US that you would pick it over any of the other AES countries? Why do you think these presumed similarities mean the same events in Bulgaria would happen in America?
Not arguing this. Socialism has never worked anywhere that is even remotely comparable to America. This is a fact.
It has, mind explaining what you mean when you say it hasn’t? Does improving life expectancy, literacy rates, housing rates, scientific progress, reducing poverty, and more not count as success?
I don’t argue against people that dispute facts. The facts do that themselves.
What facts have you presented? So far you’ve been sharing your opinion.
Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.
So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your “housing rates,” your scientific progress” and your “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare with.
You HAVE to know this.
Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.
Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.
How have I been bad faith? What part has been false-equivalence? What do you mean by a Model, are you referring to another country with similar material conditions? There can’t be, as America is history’s most developed and exploitative empire, and no former empire has become Socialist straight from said Empire.
So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your housing rates,” your scientific progress” and “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare.
So improving conditions is irrelevant, got it. Is your point that you want these to lower, like what happened in the Russian Federation?
Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.
I’m sure I could if you ever once explained what you meant by this.
Vibes and mysticism, lol. Do you have an actual point? None of what you said here is true or backed up by anything.
Definitely not true, and again not a real point, nor is it backed up by anything.
Back to vibes and mysticicm.
Can you explain the why or how of any of what you just said? It’s all vibes.
ROFL… so, you accue me of “vibes and mysticism” for saying that socialism is a failed experiment- which is pretty much accepted as fact if you take 30 seconds to look, yet offer no proof that it could work aside from some shit paragraphs worshipping an antisemite’s theories on how to achieve a perfect system?
Nope. That’s not how this is going to work. You have to provide your own nonsense and let me attack the sources and poke it full of holes with long drawn out nonsensical rebuttals and paragraphs of quotes from my long dead theorists before I let you do the same….
Yes, you are operating on vibes and mysticism. You keep saying phrases like “pretty much accepted as fact” without referencing anything factual to point to. Additionally, as discussed in another comment, Marx was of Jewish descent and advocated for the liberation of Jewish people, and wrote a hit piece on the writer of The Jewish Question, which was one of the most antisemetic works of his time.
I have listed sources previously in this thread that I recommend you read. Since I doubt that will actually happen, I’ll have to ask you what you genuinely mean by “Socialism doesn’t work,” because clearly you don’t care about metrics like Life Expectancy, Literacy Rates, Housing Rates, median hours worked, and more.
Okay dude. I said I’m not arguing this with to. And I said there are no VIABLE working models that show socialism working in America.
And if anyone reason along wants to know what a pure socialist system will do to America, just look at what happened in Bulgaria
What is a “viable model of Socialism working in America?” Are you asking for a think-tank to model Socialism for you, or are you just saying Socialism can’t work because you say it can’t, despite historically working?
Why look at Bulgaria, specifically? What does Bulgaria share in common with the US that you would pick it over any of the other AES countries? Why do you think these presumed similarities mean the same events in Bulgaria would happen in America?
Do you have anything coherent to say?
Not arguing this. Socialism has never worked anywhere that is even remotely comparable to America. This is a fact.
I don’t argue against people that dispute facts. The facts do that themselves.
It has, mind explaining what you mean when you say it hasn’t? Does improving life expectancy, literacy rates, housing rates, scientific progress, reducing poverty, and more not count as success?
What facts have you presented? So far you’ve been sharing your opinion.
Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.
So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your “housing rates,” your scientific progress” and your “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare with.
You HAVE to know this.
Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.
How have I been bad faith? What part has been false-equivalence? What do you mean by a Model, are you referring to another country with similar material conditions? There can’t be, as America is history’s most developed and exploitative empire, and no former empire has become Socialist straight from said Empire.
So improving conditions is irrelevant, got it. Is your point that you want these to lower, like what happened in the Russian Federation?
I’m sure I could if you ever once explained what you meant by this.