Either it was all white people, or the white people and black people wouldn’t sit together. I don’t know which is worse.
The worse one is when black folx can’t even get into their own church because a flock of white fascists took it over.
If I recall from the articles about this event. The pastor, who is black, invited Trump. In a funny twist as well, the former mayor of Detroit (also black) was there to speak about how great Trump is. Which is fine, except that Trump pardoned him at the end of his presidency because the man was convicted and guilty of: Obstruction of justice (x2), assault of a police officer, racketeering, tax evasion, extortion, mail fraud.
However even at the event that Kilpatrick was attending with Trump, while singing his praises, didn’t endorse him.
Leave it to a religious leader and the Mayor of Ballmer to overlook the needs of their audience by pandering to fascists…
When has it been any different?
A lot of anti-abortion black people (single issue voters) and wealthy capitalist/Democrats are the party of Dr King voters support him. The venn diagram overlap would be money.
Amen
The normal parishioners wouldn’t come because of the Trump attendance so his faithful filled out the crowd (meaning, were the entire crowd) to help feed his misrepresentation of the event. The church was so full. So full. And everyone there loved me, I can tell you that.
(Not a quote, just a likely facsimile.)
Regardless, I’m white and I would refuse to sit among a crowd of carpetbagging Trumpers who showed up to displace me from my own church (if I went to church), I sure wouldn’t do so if I were black.
Isn’t it normal etiquette to take off the hat in a church?
None of the people wearing a hat in that picture would be able to spell etiquette without a K. They love their Ks.
I like a good multilayered burn
Depends on what’s being burned, and in whose lawn…
Bro they already took off their white hoods in the house of God. Give them a break.
not really
Traditionally, men should remove their hats during prayers or hymns, whereas women might choose to keep their decorative hats on. However, this practice can vary greatly depending on the denomination and local customs. Observing other attendees and being aware of the norms can help you navigate this aspect with grace. src
given this wasn’t even a service, but just using the space as a venue, i will say that the hats are the least disgusting thing happening in the image
Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
We don’t need to see the MAGA mark on their forehead to know its there. The hat on top of it already says MAGA.
Normal for them. His staff used to sit with their bare feet on the couches in the oval office.
I have no love for his staff, but why is sitting on a couch with your shoes off bad, especially in a high-stress environment?
Maybe because it makes your couch smell like feet? I honestly don’t understand etiquette either.
That would be a different couch from the ones I’ve ever owned.
Sitting sideways on a couch reading a book is quite comfortable and plenty of people (myself included) don’t wear shoes or socks at home, especially in the summer.
Context. I think some etiquette is ok. An overemphasis on it is not. E.g. while you and I don’t care about it in our own homes, I wouldn’t encourage it where a level of decorum is required, and the oval office is one such place. How would they feel if Lavrov did the same? If they can’t respect the office they claim to hold dear, why should others?
99% of “normal etiquette” is just a bunch of outdated rules that make no sense. If even the “return to tradition” crowd is starting to feel comfortable wearing hats to church, it may be a sign that nature is healing.
Not if you worship a false-idol of a man.
I’m sorry but should a church housing a political rally and supporting a political figure not be all sorts of illegal if theyre tax exempt?
The claim was that it was a roundtable discussion that Trump was a part of.
But of course, every Trump public appearance is a Trump rally.
A claim that isn’t true and made knowingly is called a lie.
But also any time his lips move and words are produced, they are also called lies.
I prefer “the voice of treason”
Alternative truths.
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I’m sure there are exceptions for when you have to cover up your extramarital affairs with pornstars, when you reeeeeeally wanna keep some top-secret documents for personal use, when you make your money by defrauding others or just feel like keeping people in permanent fear so that they turn to you for salvation. After all, the constitution, which he has very much read, says that he can do absolutely everything with absolute impunity.
Don’t bear false witness covers some of it, and I’m sure there is some snippet of text in the outdated testament that can be taken out of context to cover the rest.
Only if a Dem does it.
the reporting on this could be better which sucks because it’s obvious it’s going to be memeified for months now
was this actually a church sponsored event or was it just being hosted in the building as a venue?
not coming at this with any assumptions or narratives i just wish there was more reliable original data than some twitter links i can’t look at without an account :/
The pastor agreed to it after being contacted by the trump campaign. here with the pastor’s explanation
ugh bless you thanks so much
edit, my take: wow that pastor seems like an upstanding guy and i would be nervous for his decision if i didn’t have hindsight and see it played out in a way that clearly only showed his guest’s hypocrisy.
It’s still pretty damned telling no black people came to their own church to hear him talk.
He said his parishioners literally laughed in his face when he asked them to come.
I’m doubt the church is real, because I got no reports of Trump instantly burning to ash the moment he set foot in it.
The church is definitely real. God on the other hand…
So you want god to do the work, that you’re supposed to do? Do we live in a democracy or a theocracy?
Did you reply to the wrong person? Your response to my comment implying that God doesn’t exist makes no sense.
The implication of GP is that it’s our job to turn Trump to ash (and I think that’s the intended interpretation).
It’s meant for both of these statements. Do we expect god to turn trump into ash or is it our job to build a good society?
“God helps those who help themselves”
“God works through us”
“God chooses imperfect vessels.”
Sorry officer it wasn’t me who threw gasoline on Trump and lit him on fire. God just works in mysterious ways, ya know?
"God gave me a high powered sniper crossbow for a reason, officer. I just made sure His Will was done by executing 5 obviously criminal SCOTUS “justices.”
If the USA is a country that is a democracy, can be answered only by a tentative yes for now. There are too many things wrong with the voting system and disenfranchisement and systemic failures around court appointments for a definitive yes.
Apart from that, we live in a world where gods don’t exist, but not everyone agrees on that.
I definitely would rather be trapped with a bear.
As a dude, I’m starting to understand the analogy…
Wait is this real or a meme
He thought it could have been a chance to hear the voice of the marginalized. He apparently hasn’t heard a trump interview or debatr before.
This is the best possible outcome we can hope for considering his last visit to a church… Which isn’t saying much. 100% less teargas this time!
What “black”?
The parishioners are supposed to be but all these white people REPLACED THEM.
This must be the “replacment” the rightwingers are always talking about.
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but all these white people REPLACED THEM.
See, white replacement in action! /s
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He must have meant their hearts. A crusted crumbling charcoal heart.
I don’t want these people to be in charge of the country. Is that wrong?
Republicans are full of hate and lies.
I mean just because the church is black - it might have be a satanist church and that’s why they painted it black - doesn’t mean that the people inside have to be black.
I am wondering if the parish at this church is majority white normally anyway. I had a friend in high school whose family went to the
evangelicalbaptist church in town and they were white. He invited me one time, and I was surprised that there was only about 3 black people in attendance. I expected it to be mostly black people because that’s how this denomination has been presented and stereotyped in media.E: wrong name.
What media? There are non-denominational evangelical churches that are predominantly * one race, some are a fair mix.
Also, what is up with the red shirt guy?
What media?
Like… Anything? TV, movies, etc. And my dumbass was thinking baptist. IDK how I got those names mixed up 🤦♂️. The kind of church with a big-ass choir and does a lot of high energy singing.
I was also very confused reading your previous comment, because of all the different names for black churches, “evangelical” is not a word I’d pick to describe them.
Also, I think it’s important to clarify that the various black “baptist” denominations are very much not the same thing as “Southern Baptist”!
Maybe the word you were looking for was something like “gospel.”
Gospel! That’s the one. Holy shit my mind is mush today.
The kind of church with a big-ass choir and does a lot of high energy singing
Could be any, in a large enough area. AME Zionist, Baptist, Holiness, Methodist, noon-denom, pick one. I didn’t šay Catholic because I’ve never visited a mostly black Catholic Church, but I went to a Catholic Church with a black priest. But high energy singing, though.
If you look at the photos of the church at other times, you see a whopping TWO white people … total … and it appears they’re with their spouses and mixed race kiddos.
Oh, wrong kind of black church, I was trying to figure if he was going to a branch of the satanic temple or what was going on here…
The Satanic Temple come off as solid Democrats if not anarchocommunists or something. If it was a Satanic house of worship, it could possibly be the Church Of Satan (who, at least in Anton LaVey’s time, were dominance-oriented Ayn Rand assholes philosophically indistinguishable from today’s Republican Christianity), or if they’ve mellowed in their old age, the Order of Nine Angles (who, conveniently, are also neo-Nazis).
The Satanic Temple stands against pretty much everything Trump and his cultists stand for, as well as the big money Democrat establishment.
Definitely not ancoms.
Yeah, I forget there are two distinct terms for very different orgs, just more a whimsical thought of some goth cathedral and black sacraments thing.
Best video I could find. Absolutely not sure about the source. I don’t have Instagram so I can’t verify anything but looks legit.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8QHQVuMW2b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
