“Israel presents itself as an LGBT haven in the region, but for Palestinians it offers neither refuge nor solidarity”

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    5 months ago

    It comes from the idea that neighboring Muslim countries have made homosexuality a capital crime

    As vile as trying to pinkwash Israeli genocide is, concerns about Palestinian persecution of LGBT people are rooted primarily in current behaviors of Palestinian society at large towards LGBT people.

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      5 months ago

      That is not usually what I hear when I hear this argument being made. I hear, “look at Saudi Arabia. How do you think a gay person would be treated in a free Palestine?”

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          5 months ago

          Okay, that may be, but that is not why those people are making that argument because I do not believe they are aware of that. And one murder, tragic as it may be, does not indicate that a free Palestine would make being queer an official capital crime.

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            And one murder, tragic as it may be, does not indicate that a free Palestine would make being queer an official capital crime.

            There’s a UN report on LGBT persecution in occupied Palestine. It’s not pretty. I’m about to head out, but if you want it when I get back, I can dig it up for you.

            Again, occupying (and genociding) Palestine is not the answer, of course. But one should have a clear view of what kind of treatment LGBT people will receive in a free Palestine. That is to say, largely the treatment they are receiving now, in occupied Palestine.

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              At least in a free Palestine the Palestinians would have the right of mobility intact (they could leave) whereas that’s not possible under Israeli occupation.

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                Oh yes, definitely. It’s a case where choosing the greater evil (Israeli occupation and genocide) helps no one. But we should be clear-eyed about the situation, is all.