“Israel presents itself as an LGBT haven in the region, but for Palestinians it offers neither refuge nor solidarity”

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    That is not usually what I hear when I hear this argument being made. I hear, “look at Saudi Arabia. How do you think a gay person would be treated in a free Palestine?”

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        5 months ago

        Okay, that may be, but that is not why those people are making that argument because I do not believe they are aware of that. And one murder, tragic as it may be, does not indicate that a free Palestine would make being queer an official capital crime.

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          5 months ago

          And one murder, tragic as it may be, does not indicate that a free Palestine would make being queer an official capital crime.

          There’s a UN report on LGBT persecution in occupied Palestine. It’s not pretty. I’m about to head out, but if you want it when I get back, I can dig it up for you.

          Again, occupying (and genociding) Palestine is not the answer, of course. But one should have a clear view of what kind of treatment LGBT people will receive in a free Palestine. That is to say, largely the treatment they are receiving now, in occupied Palestine.

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            5 months ago

            At least in a free Palestine the Palestinians would have the right of mobility intact (they could leave) whereas that’s not possible under Israeli occupation.

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              5 months ago

              Oh yes, definitely. It’s a case where choosing the greater evil (Israeli occupation and genocide) helps no one. But we should be clear-eyed about the situation, is all.