Meduza has obtained a copy of the Putin administration’s latest instructions for state-owned and pro-government news outlets. The document outlines exactly what the Kremlin wants its propaganda media to tell Russians about the upcoming anniversary of the “Baptism of Rus,” referring to the conversion of Kyivan Rus ruler Volodymyr the Great to Christianity in 988, which the country celebrates on July 28.
Not vouching for the source, not hating on Ukrainians, but if this war is showing one thing, it’s that you can’t trust just one source to give you the truth, no matter what.
Ukraine locals have often complained about their own air defenses shelling civilian housings since the war started and there’s lots of videos proving that such things happen.
I’ll not be reading replies or checking on up/down votes, so do with this whatever you like. I’m just looking for the truth in a fog of war and I feel naive for even trying, but here we are.
I’ll go back to my Black Metal playlist to listen to Ukraine and Russian Black Metal. At least there’s actual Satanists on both sides who make great music. 🌚😂
Except from the fact that your comment has nothing to do with the article’s content as @lazynooblet already said, I’d like to raise a question: Is “circumstantial evidence” the new term for alternative facts? I mean, as you are “looking for the truth” in “a fog of war”, I don’t see what kind of truth you’re after.
Or you’re simply not reading the articles you’re commenting on:
> The propaganda guide is even more aggressive on the subject of Ukraine. Its authors refer to the Ukrainian government as an “apostate regime” that’s waging a war against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in order to “destroy the spiritual ties of brother nations.” The document does not mention that a Russian shelling attack in Odesa last week destroyed Ukraine’s historic Transfiguration Cathedral.
Or you’re simply not reading the articles you’re commenting on:
> The propaganda guide is even more aggressive on the subject of Ukraine. Its authors refer to the Ukrainian government as an “apostate regime” that’s waging a war against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in order to “destroy the spiritual ties of brother nations.” The document does not mention that a Russian shelling attack in Odesa last week destroyed Ukraine’s historic Transfiguration Cathedral.
If we hypothetically assume this is true for a moment, then consider:
No SAMs would have been fired if there were no Russian missiles attacking Odesa, and thus indirectly it’s still Russia’s fault.
The Russian-designed and manufactured S-300 (and presumably the closely-related S-400) are dangerous to use over populated areas if they have no working safe abort or engagement minimums safety features, therefore they are even more dogshit than we thought they were. So, Russia is still at fault here for supplying unsafe SAMs, and no-one should buy any Russian SAMs in future if they care at all about their civilian population. If we assume that the anonymous Twitter source is indeed correct, then this is probably why Russia isn’t saying anything about it.
I’m sure once the war is over we’ll get some proper analysis from people with actual warhead ballistics knowledge though, and not just some anonymous propaganda.
There’s circumstantial evidence that the Transfiguration Cathedral was damaged by Ukraine’s often malfunctioning air defense:
https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1682936296526807041?t=L3skoVd6rxXhEfiweihlkw&s=19
https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1683079246640447488?t=4eS4Zaf1GW6XN-AqzLe0QQ&s=19
Not vouching for the source, not hating on Ukrainians, but if this war is showing one thing, it’s that you can’t trust just one source to give you the truth, no matter what.
Ukraine locals have often complained about their own air defenses shelling civilian housings since the war started and there’s lots of videos proving that such things happen.
I’ll not be reading replies or checking on up/down votes, so do with this whatever you like. I’m just looking for the truth in a fog of war and I feel naive for even trying, but here we are.
I’ll go back to my Black Metal playlist to listen to Ukraine and Russian Black Metal. At least there’s actual Satanists on both sides who make great music. 🌚😂
@zephyrvs
Except from the fact that your comment has nothing to do with the article’s content as @lazynooblet already said, I’d like to raise a question: Is “circumstantial evidence” the new term for alternative facts? I mean, as you are “looking for the truth” in “a fog of war”, I don’t see what kind of truth you’re after.
Or you’re simply not reading the articles you’re commenting on:
> The propaganda guide is even more aggressive on the subject of Ukraine. Its authors refer to the Ukrainian government as an “apostate regime” that’s waging a war against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in order to “destroy the spiritual ties of brother nations.” The document does not mention that a Russian shelling attack in Odesa last week destroyed Ukraine’s historic Transfiguration Cathedral.
This seems unrelated to the article you are posting on.
Or you’re simply not reading the articles you’re commenting on:
> The propaganda guide is even more aggressive on the subject of Ukraine. Its authors refer to the Ukrainian government as an “apostate regime” that’s waging a war against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in order to “destroy the spiritual ties of brother nations.” The document does not mention that a Russian shelling attack in Odesa last week destroyed Ukraine’s historic Transfiguration Cathedral.
Okay, give you that one.
Hmm?
Oh, @zephyrvs didn’t read the replies. They are just posting comments 😊
If we hypothetically assume this is true for a moment, then consider:
No SAMs would have been fired if there were no Russian missiles attacking Odesa, and thus indirectly it’s still Russia’s fault.
The Russian-designed and manufactured S-300 (and presumably the closely-related S-400) are dangerous to use over populated areas if they have no working safe abort or engagement minimums safety features, therefore they are even more dogshit than we thought they were. So, Russia is still at fault here for supplying unsafe SAMs, and no-one should buy any Russian SAMs in future if they care at all about their civilian population. If we assume that the anonymous Twitter source is indeed correct, then this is probably why Russia isn’t saying anything about it.
I’m sure once the war is over we’ll get some proper analysis from people with actual warhead ballistics knowledge though, and not just some anonymous propaganda.