• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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      5 months ago

      And me voicing criticism of democrats is me letting democracy drown?

      I’m just trying to get you to be more direct with your metaphor is all.

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        5 months ago

        And me voicing criticism of democrats is me letting democracy drown?

        From “I won’t endorse anyone else voting Biden!” to “Voicing criticism”. Funny how your position changes now that you’re called out. Classic Motte and Bailey.

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            5 months ago

            “I won’t endorse voting for a lesser evil so long as the lesser evil has opportunity to be less evil”

            Yes, as pointed out, that’s a convenient excuse to not endorse anti-fascism until it lines up perfectly with your view. But then you backtrack to ‘Actually I’m just making criticism’, which is quite distinctly contradictory.

            But hey, since when are fascists internally consistent?

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                5 months ago

                Only an American would think not endorsing a moderate candidate is the same as endorsement of fascism.

                “Well, I GUESS I’m anti-fascist, but not enough to actually support anti-fascism” - Definitely Not An Endorsement Of Fascism Winning

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                  5 months ago

                  Just out of curiosity, what do you think anti-fascism looks like outside the context of a political campaign?

                  Someone vigorously voting for democrats wearing a black and red antifa flag isn’t really what comes to mind for me but anti-fascist action looks different for everyone I guess.

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                    5 months ago

                    Someone vigorously voting for democrats wearing a black and red antifa flag isn’t really what comes to mind for me but anti-fascist action looks different for everyone I guess.

                    Antifascism is multifaceted, but I think most genuine antifascists agree that letting fascism win is pretty antithetical to the whole ‘anti’ part of antifascism.

                    You’re taking the easiest fucking part of not being a fascist - being a part of an anti-fascist coalition - and throwing a hissy fit over it. You want to get involved in mutual aid and direct action? Go off. Great, even.

                    But don’t fucking sit here during the election and say having your thumb up your ass as a literal fascist gets into power is anything but endorsing the end result.