Fuck off with you’re straighsplaining and gaslighting. I have zero respect for anything that emits from your shitty straight centrist mouth. You’re nothing but a privileged queerphobe with a redditesque demeanor.
I don’t need you to tell me what isn’t and is a slur in Italian. It’s clear that you’re wrong. I know shitty English and Spanish speaking Straights too who downplay hateful behavior, and you’re exactly like them.
I hope something horrible befalls you.
Edit: Thank you for saying I’m nasty, though. I really try to treat queerphobes miserably, so looks like I’m on the right track.
“I don’t speak the language, you do, but I know better than you what is and is not a slur because every language has to work the same”. Frociaggine is hardly a slur, it’s a term that can be used in many contexts without any particular hateful undertone, although this applies to friendly contexts mostly. “frocio” is closer to a slur because it’s more personal, although in Italian is very common for slurs/bad words to be used in a completely different way too (see for example use of “stronzo”) or without the bad connotation. In Rome this phenomenon is particularly common.
You seem to have a colonialist mindset. Your culture/language apparently has to apply anywhere, no differences accepted.
Also, I am a radical leftist who is a full supporter of LGBTQ rights, and I fight the Church in Italy for decades. So you can put down your strawman.
Calling gaslighting telling you about a word that you don’t understand is the cherry on top :)
You can also verify that “mortacci tua” (literally: cursing your dead ancestors) is a slur/cuss, but in Rome it is used 80% as a friendly expression. Just to make an example.
Culture and language exist beyond your google searches…
SHitty people all call their friends queerphobic slurs in both English and Spanish, I’ve seen it.
It doesn’t excuse it, and it doesn’t make their language and behavior less queerphobic. In fact, the fact that they use it so casually is just more evidence of how deeply entrenched queerphobia is, and the fact that they’re willing to continue to normalize this in society with such callous disgregard for us LGBTQIA+ people does not reflect well on their character.
Sounds to me like you just surround yourself with 4chan tier people. Yikes.
Anyway, here’s you straight up refusing to understand the concept of white privilege:
My genuine reaction to everything you’ve said:
Have an extremely shitty day, and let’s not talk again. I have even less respect for you now that when we’ve started – pretty impressive tbh since I started at zero so – achievement unlocked??, and you’ve confirmed all my suspicions about you by admitting that you think casual queerphobia is okay and that we queers are just “making a big deal out of nothing.”
I can’t block your ass because I’m a mod, but I won’t be responding in any meaningful way going forward.
Fuck off with you’re straighsplaining and gaslighting. I have zero respect for anything that emits from your shitty straight centrist mouth. You’re nothing but a privileged queerphobe with a redditesque demeanor.
I don’t need you to tell me what isn’t and is a slur in Italian. It’s clear that you’re wrong. I know shitty English and Spanish speaking Straights too who downplay hateful behavior, and you’re exactly like them.
I hope something horrible befalls you.
Edit: Thank you for saying I’m nasty, though. I really try to treat queerphobes miserably, so looks like I’m on the right track.
“I don’t speak the language, you do, but I know better than you what is and is not a slur because every language has to work the same”. Frociaggine is hardly a slur, it’s a term that can be used in many contexts without any particular hateful undertone, although this applies to friendly contexts mostly. “frocio” is closer to a slur because it’s more personal, although in Italian is very common for slurs/bad words to be used in a completely different way too (see for example use of “stronzo”) or without the bad connotation. In Rome this phenomenon is particularly common.
You seem to have a colonialist mindset. Your culture/language apparently has to apply anywhere, no differences accepted.
Also, I am a radical leftist who is a full supporter of LGBTQ rights, and I fight the Church in Italy for decades. So you can put down your strawman.
Calling gaslighting telling you about a word that you don’t understand is the cherry on top :)
I’m not reading an essay from a straight person who sounds like a redditor
You are not reading at all, apparently. Shame, it’s useful sometimes. You should try.
Your opinion here is unimportant. You’re not in the community
So your opinion on the use of an Italian word is not important, as you are not in the community (Italian speakers). Sounds good to me.
(Obviously I consider your argument BS, but happy to apply it both ways).
Anyone can easily determine it’s a slur. Pretty fuckin easy to verify that I’m right and you’re wrong.
You can also verify that “mortacci tua” (literally: cursing your dead ancestors) is a slur/cuss, but in Rome it is used 80% as a friendly expression. Just to make an example.
Culture and language exist beyond your google searches…
SHitty people all call their friends queerphobic slurs in both English and Spanish, I’ve seen it.
It doesn’t excuse it, and it doesn’t make their language and behavior less queerphobic. In fact, the fact that they use it so casually is just more evidence of how deeply entrenched queerphobia is, and the fact that they’re willing to continue to normalize this in society with such callous disgregard for us LGBTQIA+ people does not reflect well on their character.
Sounds to me like you just surround yourself with 4chan tier people. Yikes.
Anyway, here’s you straight up refusing to understand the concept of white privilege:
My genuine reaction to everything you’ve said:
Have an extremely shitty day, and let’s not talk again. I have even less respect for you now that when we’ve started – pretty impressive tbh since I started at zero so – achievement unlocked??, and you’ve confirmed all my suspicions about you by admitting that you think casual queerphobia is okay and that we queers are just “making a big deal out of nothing.”
I can’t block your ass because I’m a mod, but I won’t be responding in any meaningful way going forward.