considering the current state of the world and things like the resurgence of fascism and other authoritarian ideologies, do you think there is still a chance to avoid a new world war or now is unavoidable?

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    considering we have a record of over 6000 years of overlapping armed conflicts and wars, yes absolutely.

    there has not been a single worldwide peaceful day for thousands of years.

    it’s not 100% sure the ones currently going on will be called world wars. maybe it will be a new one. there’s always another war, unfortunately.

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    It started in 2014 so yeah. We are just not yet to a point where America gets directly involved. We are doing the lend lease thing again.

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      Came here to say the same thing. Both US and EU: “this is not real, this is not a real war”.
      In their delusion, are helping Ukraine, but it’s a half-ass help. How should a war look to be called a war? Tanks, Aircraft, ships, 1000km trench warfare, ballistic missiles - is that a war?

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    The biggest issue is extremism on both sides of the political spectrum. Division and hate are extremely easy to stoke and the left is at least as complicit. Unless people change their mindset to and remove the barriers they put up between people, conflict will be inevitable.

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      The right: “I think we should deport anyone with brown skin, incarcerate the LGBT community until they learn to stay closeted, execute black people without trial and force raped children to give birth, all the while gutting environmental protections, welfare and anything else that might cost my rich friends money”

      The left: “Then you’re a cunt”

      You: Both sides so divisive!

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        You’re part of the problem till you can step back and understand others opinions. Generally people mean well.

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            Oddly they have some arguments that the hard left would agree with normally if it wasnt so polarised.

            For example critical race theory would say institutional racism caused disparity right? So is institutional racism bad? Or just bad if it preferences a race you prefer?

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                  Oh I understand those far-right “others” just fine. They’re all the abusive partners, parents and bullys we’ve all known. The ones who will torture their own family members for doing something, anything, without their unpredictable stamp of approval. The ones who eagerly twist and lie and manipulate people to get what they want, saying vapid shit about “empathy and understanding” that they have no intention of following themselves.

                  The Republican party is indefensible and by extension, so are those that support them, from Fox News all the way down to fuckstains at the local bar. They’ve made themselves a shining beacon for the worst people in America and I’m comfortable writing every single one of them off.

                  Because if they were actually capable of empathy, understanding or reasonable discourse, they wouldn’t be far-right in the first place.

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      Can you describe the extremism left of spectrum?

      Honest question, not JAQing off, and I won’t jump down your throat no matter what you say.

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    Not so long as nuclear weapons exist. I don’t think any country is reckless enough to risk a nuclear exchange, and that won’t change until the stress from climate change changes the math.

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      Climate change is there though. It’s not yet reached the “death by the millions” point, but that point being inevitable now, a nation could start thinking about the potential benefits from being the first to strike.

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    We’re already in it. There are currently 57 conflicts in the world, of which several are international. Things will escalate. World tension is rising, the far right is on the rise, it’s the 1930’s all over again. Or at least, in some parts of the world. In other parts it’s already the 1940’s, with totalitarian regimes, genocide and concentration camps.

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      Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.

      — Albert Einstein

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        true but anyone stupid enough to take on a NATO ally is going to be surprised how quickly that “world war” is over

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          A big part of the alliance is credibility. Far right political parties have called into question weather NATO is worth it. Even if we are a strong alliance the mere appearance of questioning can cause an opponent to misread and attack.

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            agreed thankfully the far right is still small and with a bit of immigration reform should be wiped out

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            Iraq was led by the US with few partners and was a huge mistake.

            Libya was a UN sponsored brief air/missile strikes to try to stem a horrible civil war but yeah that was NATO and didn’t end well either. Probably should have been a larger operation with peace keepers.