• Julian@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      Also local elections can be decided by one vote and can be just as important.

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      I see people saying their vote doesn’t matter when they’re in a highly partisan district

      I see people saying it when they’re in heavily gerrymandered districts and deeply disenfranchised states. Dems have been playing the “Just go out and vote!” game in Florida for a quarter century, and Repubs keep finding new ways to yank the football. Even ballot initiatives don’t work, as the Florida gerrymandered legislature just reverses out whatever voting rights or decriminalization laws the public passes.

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        Okay, then protest. And also VOTE.

        Throwing your hands up in the air saying “voting doesn’t work so I’m not going to do anything” is just allowing them to dictate everything that will happen.

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          Okay, then protest.

          Throwing your hands up in the air saying “voting doesn’t work so I’m not going to do anything”

          Studying the history of the electoral system and the patterns of disenfranchisement isn’t equivalent to “doing nothing”. And in the end, you have to be rational rather than idealistic. When Vladimir Putin is counting the votes, you’re not going to vote him out of office.

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            When Vladimir Putin is counting the votes, you’re not going to vote him out of office.

            Russians that literally live under Vladimir Putin risk their lives to protest. You have politicians that you admit want to become the next Putin but won’t say anything or of fear of pepper spray.

            There’s an internet meme about France surrendering. French politicians try to increase the retirement age and the population takes to the streets. American politicians try to take away your democracy and American citizens just roll over to expose their belly.
            It’s not the French that surrender at the slightest bit of difficulty.

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              Russians that literally live under Vladimir Putin risk their lives to protest.

              So do American college kids.

              French politicians try to increase the retirement age and the population takes to the streets.

              French politicians have been squeezing the pension system since at least 2006, and the street protests have come and gone without discouraging new efforts to dismantle the system.

              Bully to them for trying, but without material control over industry, they’re all sound and fury.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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      I’ve been voting for 24 years and have never seen this happen. They double down and that gets their voters even more fired up to vote.