• TheHooligan95@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      Well, almost nothing would be. Yours is a NONargument because it completely kills the discourse. But that’s beside the point. Some billionares do work hard because they happened across a smart idea and they were able to make it flourish.

      Not saying that Bezos in 2023 deserves all the money he has because I dislike Amazon, but you still can’t deny that it was an idea that changed in just a decade the entire way a society thinks about shopping.

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        Why is an overwhelming, correct argument that ends the discourse a bad thing if you already admit it’s correct?

      • Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        So because he had an idea and workers realized that idea for him and those workers make that idea be maintained for him makes it fine for them to be exploited? Also I doubt that those people at the top manage shit, they just have another workers manage this stuff for them.

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          That’s just dingeneous and completely disregarding how things actually work. Did he clean the bathrooms? Of course not. But he did coordinate his team of workers by creating other teams of worker where at the end there were people who coded and shipped everything. If you think that would be easy to do you have a rude awakening waiting for you lmao.

          I mean to say, that it is probably the hardest or among the hardest roles.

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            Following this logic you don’t work very hard.

            The one who works hard is the worker you depend on. That worker can go work elsewhere, but you need him. Pay him his worth, because he’s literally the support pillar. I’m sure you know what happens when there’s no support pillar.

            It’s not because you tell people what to do that you work harder. Those people could have done it themselves, but they didn’t have the money to start something as big as amazon. It’s all about how much money you have to invest, not hard work.

            Some billionares do work hard because they happened across a smart idea and they were able to make it flourish.

            Smart ideas with money to invest = hard worker

            Smart ideas but poor = ???

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              Yeah plus even if they don’t have the ideas working in a warehouse moving stuff is harder than talking and arranging things with people

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                i’d take a life of “how am i gonna spend this money wisely” over a life of “how am i gonna make it this month”

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        Those people would be NOTHING if not for all other workers. It’s a team game and the entire team should be rewarded and treated with respect. I’m not saying we should pay every job the same wage, I’m saying that all of the money shouldn’t flow to the few select people while the rest gets scrumbles.

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            Having power does not imply great effort to hold it. The bourgeois state does that, all Billionaires need do is collect profit while they sleep, or take a visit to Epstein’s island.

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      How much you make has never been related to how hard/strenuous the work is.

      Ditch digging is a body-destroying job. But because basically any able-bodied person can do it, no individual can command a very high wage for it, because the more potential candidates there are, the more likely that there’s someone who’s willing to do the same job for less than you’re willing to do it for.

      On the other side, if there’s hypothetically a very specialized job with 5 openings, 1 each at 5 different companies, and you’re the one and only person with the required skillset to do it, you can basically name your price, and those 5 companies will fight each other to get you.

      Acquiring skills that are as valued and rare as possible, is the way to accelerate your earning, not working as “hard” as possible.