• Siegfried@lemmy.world
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    Lemmy world -> politics = USA… it feels so wrong but well, the block button is there for something, isn’t it?

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      Oh, damn, I subscribed to the wrong community. Sucks.

      I thought this was about world politics and it turns out it’s just (again) US centrism.

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        I think I can mention it. I mean, why not?

        There was a cool subreddit back there, r/USdefaultism. We should do something like that here.

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      Seriously. This is egregious enough that it makes me wonder if admins can rename communities.

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        Why create this community on the “world” instance (hosted by someone from the Netherlands) and call it a general name but make it specific only to then tell people to go to the community that needs to use a specific name to cover a general subject (which they need to do because you hijacked the name they would logically have used when you should have used a specific name)?

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            And it shouldn’t have been like that over there but we still had to make the same mistake over here? Guess Lemmy’s Canada community needs to accept bigotry then, if it was like that on Reddit then it must be right 🤷

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              I’m just being descriptive. You asked why, that’s why.

              I’m not saying it should be that way, or that it should not be changed now that it is that way. I’m here for US politics but I’d be happy if this became a world politics community and I had to subscribe to c/USPolitics (or whatever) as well.

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          Why do you think there are rules for community names? There are no rules or expectations (at least not yet) for community names.

          The well-known answer for why this community is named this is that it is a recreation of another community that was also named this.

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            And it shouldn’t have been like that over there but we still had to make the same mistake over here?

            I never mentioned rules, don’t put words in my mouth.

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              If you don’t think of it as a mistake, simply an inconsequential detail, it makes perfect sense to retain it as a form of identity, so people that switched platforms can feel like they moved as a group.

              I wasn’t putting words in your mouth, you are acting like they have somehow done something incorrectly, but that would imply there is a correct way, which would imply rules for how to do it, official, unspoken, whatever idc.

              Anyone can make their own group on a different instance and call it the same thing. If you don’t like how lemmy.world works, don’t take it out on the mods here, either find another instance, start one yourself, or if you have to, take it up with a lemmy.world admin

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        Is it your belief that baseball is solely a US sport? US is just where the best players most often play. Other nations are not prohibited from the ML. See the Toronto Blue Jays (World Series champions in 1993)

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      I’m in the USA but I think it’s inevitable. The USA is the single largest primarily English speaking democracy in the world. Since Lemmy.world is a primarily English speaking instance, it should be expected that an American would create a politics community first and since it’s the first they just call it politics.

      For example, the UK is the only country in the world where they don’t put the country name on their stamps. Because they invented paper stamps first in 1840.

      This is not a fight worth worrying about IMO.

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        Why would you subscribe to something in the first place without knowing anything more than its title? Bizarre.

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          I think it was general politics in the begining, as the name implies. Holy fucking shit mericans aren’t building a good rep with this one.

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            It has only existed for a month and based on all evidence has always been for just US politics. Are you sure you haven’t confused it with another politics group on lemmy? Like !politics@lemmy.ml?

            Idk why people want to change communities to be what they want them to be instead of seeking out or making the communities they want elsewhere. Anyone can have the politics name on any other instance, unlike how reddit was.

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              Ah, you might be right, that’s where I’m subscribed. It is still conceited to not put US in the name, but I’ll just block it and not think of it again.

              E: Oh, that one is also filled with US drama. Guess I gotta put “world” in front then.

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                That one might be filled with US stuff because many of it’s users are from the US, but there is no rule requiring everything be related to US politics, which seems to be the rule people wanted changed here. Even if they changed that rule here, this place would still have been 90% US politics because that is what the community that grew here wanted.

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                  You are arguing what happens, I am arguing what should happen, but you’re right it’s no harder than skiping to a new one.

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          Because I have an interest in politics and I saw a couple of posts I was interested in, slim pickings with content on Lemmy for now but after I realized it’s all US centric posts I’ve unsubscribed. Not that bizzare…

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        Only perfect descriptor names allowed on the internet. Better change my email address for the irritable dudes in this thread.

        This is how federation works, people.

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        If these kids could read they would be hella pissed at your comment asking them to take some personal responsibility for their subscriptions.

        Personally I don’t subscribe to Better Homes and Gardens, and I don’t write in to complain that they don’t display apartment buildings inside.

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          Thanks friend. There was a hole other post this morning dedicated to people complaining about the content of the community. I do not get it. The nerve of people to just roll in and complain they don’t like the content. Just leave if you don’t like it. Nobody needs your bitching.

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        Why? There’s no popular community named “sky is blue”. There’s no reason to discuss basic truths.

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        Do you do anything other than whine? Boo hoo hoo, no one likes people who are trying to eradicate vulnerable minorities! Waaaah! People keep calling them nazis just because they’re marching with nazi flags!

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      Our stalkers too! You don’t become a moderator of a politics community expecting to be everyone’s buddy, friend, or pal.

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          You gwt used to it. A lot of moderators are posting and commenting right now to grow their communities. Eventually we will take a backseat and just moderate but until then we expect trolls to be trolls.

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    Kinda gross how chauvinist americans are in taking the default term “politics” instead of “US politics” while ignoring international affairs. It was gross on reddit and it’s gross here.

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      It gets even worse when you see the mods dismissing this reasonable criticism as “trolling”. They have decided that this is their turf because they’ve gotten here first, regardless of utility or rationality. Pretty much describes the whole state of politics in their country.

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        Yeah no one is trolling. This is what we genuinely and sincerely believe.

        The Americans trying to present themselves as the default is a significant problem brought about by their place in global hegemony. They do this and defend it viciously everywhere because they are nationalists, even the democrats are incredibly nationalistic.

        Ideally as america declines and recedes from a position given to it by ww2 fucking the rest of the world over its population will slowly accept this and start acting like a normal country that accepts it is not the centre of all things and should not be treated as such. It is one country out of many and there is no reason it should not be treated and present itself just like all the other countries out there.

        This will take a long time to happen though. American ego will need to be smashed first. As well as the incredible nationalism at the heart of most of the population, this is the hardest part though because americans see no problem with their nationalism, this despite the fact americans wave more flags everywhere than a nuremburg rally.

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      Is it because it’s a mainly english server? I love reading whats going on in other countries but I’d mainly focus on topics which’ll immediately effect me day to day. Is it lack of people from other countries posting or am I being stupid?

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        The rules of the channel state:

        Must be articles relevant to US political news. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed.

        It would be reasonable for this channel to be dominated by US politics if that was simply a consequence of the demographics of the site. It is not reasonable to appropriate the name ‘politics’ in the largest instance that also happens to be named ‘world’. This is the equivalent of someone making a channel called ‘food’ and forbid posting anything that isn’t traditional Scottish cuisine.