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    Ah, here we go. The natural enemy of the leftist: the other leftist that isn’t lefting right.

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        Also if you support surrogate pregnancy, don’t support surrogate pregnancy, support public ownership media, don’t support public ownership media, support sex work, don’t support sex work, support UBI, don’t support UBI or pretty much any other bit of policy.

        Every leftist is Schrödinger’s leftist, constantly in a superposition of true leftism and false leftism until they interact with another leftist, at which point they collapse into a false leftist every time.

        And then a conservative wins the next election so they can dismantle any leftist policy that has been accidentally introduced and the cycle can start all over again. Nature is a beautiful mystery, really.

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          Sure but some quantum particles are more stable than others.

          Not supporting a neocolonial ethnostate is, to my estimation, a pretty consistent leftist superposition. Maybe the most stable one? Idk it’s pretty high up there

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            This post really rounds out this metaphor, because it’s just as infuriating to people who understand the self-defeating nature of leftist purity checks and to quantum physicists pretty much for the same reasons.

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      Don’t be misled, these are not leftists. It’s obvious propaganda from the conservatives, even though maybe some actual leftist drank the kool aid

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        Speaking of superpositions, this exists in the same space as flat earthers in that there’s almost certainly some blend of genuine arguments and trolling but it’s impossible to probe which is which.

        But all joking aside, the overall point about leftists being susceptible to fratricidal, self-defeating infighting is absolutely genuine, and whatever amount of trolling and hostile propaganda is involved is certainly built on that assumption. If there is something to be learned from this nonsense is that this is a vulnerability and we should be consistently unified about acquiring, supporting and maintaining any remotely left-leaning and/or least right-leaning candidate available in every elected position at every level of democratic governance worldwide as a unified front to make that narrative go away.

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          The problem with having ideals is that it’s difficult to accept you have to stop somewhere. Especially younger people have certainly good intentions, but lack of pragmatism can make it difficult o accept a temporary compromise even when the alternative is a long term catastrophe. But in this case the comparison is between Biden not doing enough against israel and Trump actively supporting it. There is nothing to discuss really. On any other topic Trump is just a plain nazist.

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    Supporting genocide is just too popular

    Well, maybe instead of demanding a candidate to take a losing position and get literally nothing you support, you should work to, I don’t know, make supporting genocide less popular in the electorate?

    Nah, better to do everything you can to sink the less evil of the two candidates. The greater evil will be fine, I’m sure.

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        TIL actively supporting a genocide is a winning position for democrats.

        Do I have to explain to you how democracy works?

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            “Most Americans don’t pay close attention to foreign affairs and some 50 years of steady pro-Israel propaganda funded by the Israeli state has entrenched views to the point where the past ~20 years of intensified genocide barely raised a blink in the general population; the current propagandized pro-Israel depiction of the genocide, relying on the atrocities of October 7th, still holds sway in a large percentage of the electorate, as well as the notion of Israel as the ‘only democracy in the Middle East’.”

            Would you like me to chew that sentence up and spit it in your mouth, or is that simplified enough for you to understand as-is?

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              Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.

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                Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.

                Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel’s genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?

                Please, tell me what the previous support for Israel’s genocide was. I’m interested in hearing what exactly you think it was, if not looking at a genocide and not recognizing it.