• Ashyr@sh.itjust.works
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    I’d never really heard the term NEET before and had to do some research. I get what is, but not really why it is.

    Is it a lifestyle thing or a mental health thing?

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      NEET is is an economic label that means Not in Employment Education or Training. Its the group often looked down on as leeches in society but the term doesn’t consider the reasons or health of the person.

      The sister in the post appears much more like the Japanese shutins or hikikomori who isolate themselves from all social contact. Technically being a hikikomori is a choice but mental health and big pressure culture probably dont help.

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          Thats what i meant with “technically” a choice

          The ironic part in this is that ecologically/footprint speaking the impact might be pretty positive compared to going out.

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            Yea, here where I live there is a culture of most jobs being seasonal work, so a good amount of people end up being NEET’s for about half a yera or less because of the lack of regular jobs and surplus of seasonal work that’s most times only 3-6 month’s long.

            You could say we are forced to be neet’s whenever tourist season isn’t ongoing.

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              Thsts also what it was like it in medieval europe lord days. Peasants sow and harvested the lands but most of the year didn’t have much to do.

              Sounds alot better then the cant skip a paycheck or miss rent hustle culture.

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                Peasants sow and harvested the lands but most of the year didn’t have much to do.

                They usually ploughed two times before harvest, and had to harrow at least once. After the harvest you had to process it, so cleaning threshing and winnowing grain or cleaning fruits. You’d need to weed it, maybe even plough it again after sowing to flatten out the ground and cover the seed and bury the weeds. If you’re lucky, you can add some manure and if you’re unlucky you might to plough agaaaain to retain more water on the field.

                Of course those staple crops are in addition to the vegetable and herb garden, and any animals that need care every single day.

                And all of this is ignoring the housework, gathering firewood, cooking for today and preserving for winter, cleaning and mending clothes, making yarn and weaving fabric, down to simply fetching water. Just housework is a fulltime job (not 40 hours, but literally all the time) in de middle ages.

                And if you fall Ill, break a leg, have a fire or just have a shitty dry summer, the general solution to that is dying slowly and painfully.

                Subsistence farming sucks so hard, people worldwide literally chose indentured servitude as a preferable alternative on many occasions.

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                  Both sides are true.

                  Work itself was much harder and life itself could be called a struggle compared to today’s standards.

                  But the attitude towards works was very different and much more broken up. Leisure in medieval times is well documented.

                  “During times of high wages and good harvests, peasants could expect to work no more than 150 days a year.”

                  https://www.thecollector.com/peasant-life-medieval-england/

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                    “During times of high wages and good harvests, peasants could expect to work no more than 150 days a year.”

                    Ahhh this article again. It misses a hugely important bit of info: this work is ONLY for their lord. To translate it to a modern context:

                    During a brief period after the Plague, a peasant “only” had to work 150 days to “pay the rent”. If they wanted to do stuff like stay warm, wear clothes and eat, that came on top of those 150 days.

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                  I have no idea where this propaganda that is wasn’t so hard being a feudal peasant came from but it’s just laughable

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                    It’s all the same anti enlightenment brain rot you see all over Lemmy. These people have convinced themselves that modernity is so terrible, they’d literally rather be slaves.

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              I know it’s just a typo, but typing surplus like that makes me think of the type of Freudian slip a reptilian disguised as a human would have. 🤣

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        TIL NEET means something else. For I thought it was only an enterance test in India to get into medical education. It is super competitive and toppers are usually shut-ins, studying for 14-16 hours a day.

        The exams are held in may so for kids to go in hibernation since January is common place.

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        Its the group often looked down on as leeches

        im still trying to figure out why people hate the fact that people leech off of shit.

        Like unless we’re going turbo functionalist society where we define suicide as a normal aspect of everyday life, it seems rather. Dystopian to be claiming that everybody must be a part of society.

        economists are fucking weird dude.

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      I heard it but I never had an idea what it meant, so I looked it up. NEET means they aren’t in education and don’t have a job employment.

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      Yes. As for why, why not? If you can it’s probably the single best was to live life. Most jobs are entirely unfulfilling, unnecessary bullshit jobs that stack even more unfulfilling, unnecessary bullshit on top of it. the important work is, like, maybe a tenth of all actual work done and that’s still usually done by people who get treated like shit, sucking out whatever meaning they might be able to find.

      Education is good, but left to their own devices most humans will educate themselves to some degree, so it’s not like NEET necessarily means a lack of self improvement either. Not that that’s the only measure of a good life.

      And that’s before taking into account mental health issues that our society creates.

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      Normally it’s used to indicate a lifestyle which probably has an underlying mental health component. But the girl in this story is just really really autistic. IDK why the OP didn’t describe her as such once.

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        How do you know she’s autistic? Maybe she’s depressed, experiences severe social anxiety, or something else of that nature. I see no reason to jump to autism as the explanation, there just isn’t enough context.

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          I’d say the stuff about having meltdowns and the way it’s described points toward autism, particularly the Christmas incident, but it could be something else. I say this as someone on the spectrum myself, though far more able to function without support than the girl in the story.

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      i think it’s more of a situational thing. I.E. used to shit on people who aren’t “part of the work force” although now it’s been codified into a bit of slang, since it’s technically an acronym now.