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        Why exactly are we giving Nazis the power to poison language, emojis, what have you for the rest of us again?

        I think we should do the opposite. As soon as some symbol becomes a dog whistle, we should all rush to use it for it’s original meaning as much as possible, thus preventing the dog from hearing the whistle where it’s supposed to be used as such.

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            In any normal circles, nazis are so irrelevant that you dont need to worry about ok signs or whatnot

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                No. This was in the context of the original comment. If somebody has no idea what’s wrong with the ok sign, they probably don’t need to worry about it. This is all terminally online insanity.

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          Well the purpose of the hate list like this isn’t “what symbols not to use” so much as, if a guy uses this and there’s context to suggest it’s a dogwhistle, this is what it means.

          As a concrete example, If someone turns to a camera makes the ok gesture then punches a black guy that can be used as evidence in conjunction with a database like this to add a hate crime charge onto the assault charge.

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            Exactly this. Gasden Flag, same vibes, same weird arguments from people trying to take it back. Go ahead and try, I wish you well, but you’re gonna look like a racist flying it.

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          Because when someone uses a symbol while they do something shitty, they are associating that symbol with their shitty behaviors. Human brains are wired to identify paterns and associations for threat identification. That’s why cops all dress differently than EMT’s.

          If your ex-girlfriend left you in a nasty break up, you might avoid her favorite restaurant, cry when you hear her favorite songs, or even get upset just seeing a similar car to the one she drove. You cant drown out a dog whistel, all you can do is point it out.

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          Why exactly are we giving Nazis the power to poison language, emojis, what have you for the rest of us again?

          Probably the same reason that the swastika is a hate symbol instead of a Hindu symbol.

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      This might give some info.

      Oren Segal, director of the ADL’s Center on Extremism, told NPR that for years on fringe online message boards such as 4chan and 8chan, the “OK” sign has been deployed in memes and other images promoting hate. Given the number of white supremacists who have adopted it, he said it can now carry a nefarious message.