And before that religions banned eating pork. A common worm people get from eating undercooked pork spread through your bloodstream and eggs (not commonly, but occasionally) can cross the blood/brain barrier.
People think it’s just a saying these days, but that’s because we know how to mostly prevent it, so it went from common to super rare.
But every once and a while some idiot doesn’t cook pork properly and this happens.
I’m talking about food prep regulations, cooking to an internal temperature.
Which is very easy for idiots to not follow.
You seem to be talking about farm regulations preventing infected meat. That is not happening and not really possible. It takes a single microscopic egg.
We can’t count on farm regulations.
But food prep regulations are like vaccines, if everyone does it, people start to think we don’t need it and stop following it.
Are you aware of RFK’s comments on vaccines?
He’s exactly the type of guy that wouldnt care if pork was undercooked
Yes, I understand that. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 165 Fahrenheit will kill parasites. But health regulations on farms have essentially eliminated the risk of parasites to begin with, specifically to mitigate the idiots. RFK admitted to eating in a foreign country that doesn’t have the same safety standards. That’s the reason he was infected with parasites.
The same applies for ground beef as well. It’s the grinding up of the meat that creates a zone for bacteria to infect it. The reason they changed pork to 145 is because they created health regulations that eliminated the risk of parasites and allow them to only cook it to 145.
No, I don’t know what you think you know about farms, but there is no way to eliminate it from pigs except keeping them inside in a controlled environment.
A pig will eat literally anything.
A single mouse or bird getting to close can introduce it. They also love to roll around in their own shit, which can cause it to spread among a population.
We can take steps at farms like precautionary medications for all pigs, but lots of people don’t want that in their food and it’s expensive.
If you wait to treat till symptoms, some will be butchered while infected.
RFK admitted to eating in a foreign country that doesn’t have the same safety standards. That’s the reason he was infected with parasites.
He’s also racist and whether or not he ate undercooked pork he’s blaming it on a lower income foreign country.
Dude literally had dead brain worms and was complaining about the mental effects, why are you taking his word as gossipal? In the quote even he says doctors can’t say where he got it, which is obvious.
He’s guessing it was from Asia.
If food safety wasnt such a serious issue we’d have been done a while ago. But it’s really important you stop telling people it’s safe to eat raw pork. not follow food prep regulations.
Regulations cover both. That is what I’m saying, regulations. And regulations both contribute to food safety. I’m not saying that safety during animal life is enough, as you seem to want to suggest. I’m simply covering that regulations cover both, and both contribute to food safety.
If you want to put it another way, we’re talking about different things. I’m talking about the entirety of the food and regulation system, both animal and cooking. And you’re focusing exclusively on cooking. (I also recognize your username, so I’m out.)
What you’re doing is like telling people polio is cured so they don’t need vaccines…
The overall number of cases reported has decreased because of improved pig-raising practices in the pork industry, commercial and home freezing of pork, and public awareness of the danger of eating raw or undercooked meat products. The number of cases associated with raw or undercooked wild game meats has remained relatively constant over time (Figure 2).
The reason it’s so rare is people finally stopped eating undercooked pork.
If you start eating raw pork, you’re basically playing Russian roulette. Do it enough and you will get the bad result.
In Germany, the meat used for mett is strictly regulated. It’s illegal to sell raw mett the day after it was ground — if butchers want to use the leftovers, they must be cooked. The risk of food poisoning is minimized by making sure that the mett stays cold right up to the point it’s served, per Atlas Obscura.
You can kill it with heat or cold, they kill it with cold, and keep it cold.
Like. People eat sushi all the time, that doesn’t mean you can buy a fish from the grocery store and eat it raw, it hasn’t been specifically prepared so it’s safe.
Mett is raw pork like a raw unfrozen fish from a fish market is sushi…
My guy, do you notice how you have to invert the comparison for it to make sense? Mett is raw pork. You said raw pork can’t be eaten safely. Mett can be eaten safely. It’s not that hard to understand - with proper regulations, raw pork is safe to eat.
The USDA and FDA, which both lean conservative in their recommendations, consider whole cuts of pork safe down to 145F (roughly equivalent to cooked to medium):
This has been the case for over a decade. Pork should be cooked but the old 160F recommendations have been gone for a long time now because commercial pork is relatively safe.
Also note that this is the one-minute pasteurization temp; meat can be held at a lower temperature for longer to render it safe.
There’s literally someone in this thread right now saying you can eat raw pork in America without worry…
The correct response to that is to provide the actual guidelines based on actual data, not to fearmonger while quoting lines referencing wild game.
A huge part of why commercial pork is safe – that you’re consistently leaving out – were major changes to how livestock are raised. Trichinosis transmission in pigs is primarily caused by the consumption of infected meat; US standards were changed to more strictly control what’s fed to pigs, which led to the decreased risk. The risk remains in wild boar because they’re omnivores that will scavenge whatever they can find.
145 is still a limit people need to follow, lots of people don’t.
145 isn’t a hard limit. It’s the recommended holding temperature for one minute.
There’s a reason we have food safety regulations…
And before that religions banned eating pork. A common worm people get from eating undercooked pork spread through your bloodstream and eggs (not commonly, but occasionally) can cross the blood/brain barrier.
People think it’s just a saying these days, but that’s because we know how to mostly prevent it, so it went from common to super rare.
But every once and a while some idiot doesn’t cook pork properly and this happens.
To be fair, health regulations have largely eliminated the risk of parasites in pork. Though that doesn’t apply everywhere in the world.
Hold up.
I’m talking about food prep regulations, cooking to an internal temperature.
Which is very easy for idiots to not follow.
You seem to be talking about farm regulations preventing infected meat. That is not happening and not really possible. It takes a single microscopic egg.
We can’t count on farm regulations.
But food prep regulations are like vaccines, if everyone does it, people start to think we don’t need it and stop following it.
Are you aware of RFK’s comments on vaccines?
He’s exactly the type of guy that wouldnt care if pork was undercooked
Yes, I understand that. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 165 Fahrenheit will kill parasites. But health regulations on farms have essentially eliminated the risk of parasites to begin with, specifically to mitigate the idiots. RFK admitted to eating in a foreign country that doesn’t have the same safety standards. That’s the reason he was infected with parasites.
It’s 145 for pork, 160 for ground pork. They changed it a while ago.
The same applies for ground beef as well. It’s the grinding up of the meat that creates a zone for bacteria to infect it. The reason they changed pork to 145 is because they created health regulations that eliminated the risk of parasites and allow them to only cook it to 145.
No, I don’t know what you think you know about farms, but there is no way to eliminate it from pigs except keeping them inside in a controlled environment.
A pig will eat literally anything.
A single mouse or bird getting to close can introduce it. They also love to roll around in their own shit, which can cause it to spread among a population.
We can take steps at farms like precautionary medications for all pigs, but lots of people don’t want that in their food and it’s expensive.
If you wait to treat till symptoms, some will be butchered while infected.
He’s also racist and whether or not he ate undercooked pork he’s blaming it on a lower income foreign country.
Dude literally had dead brain worms and was complaining about the mental effects, why are you taking his word as gossipal? In the quote even he says doctors can’t say where he got it, which is obvious.
He’s guessing it was from Asia.
If food safety wasnt such a serious issue we’d have been done a while ago. But it’s really important you stop telling people it’s safe to
eat raw pork.not follow food prep regulations.I never said it was safe to eat raw pork. Stop creating strawmen that have nothing to do with this conversation…
I confused you with the other person who keeps saying food prep isn’t important in this thread…
Those are the type of people who are agreeing with you btw.
Yes, they are agreeing with me because health regulations are responsible for eliminating parasites, not because people overcook pork.
Seriously, take your own advice. Stop talking about food safety. You are not an authority, so stop acting like one.
A little information is a dangerous thing, it seems
It’s both, regulations during the animals life and cooking. Wild animals have way more parasites than domestic ones.
It’s not both tho…
Proper preparation is what works.
Mitigating infection of the animal is a step we do because we know a non zero amount of idiots won’t follow food prep regulations.
It lowers the chances, but doesn’t make it impossible.
Hell, 100% clean meat can still pick it up between butchering and consumption.
Is it common? No. But it is with people who habitually flaunt food prep regulations.
Regulations cover both. That is what I’m saying, regulations. And regulations both contribute to food safety. I’m not saying that safety during animal life is enough, as you seem to want to suggest. I’m simply covering that regulations cover both, and both contribute to food safety.
If you want to put it another way, we’re talking about different things. I’m talking about the entirety of the food and regulation system, both animal and cooking. And you’re focusing exclusively on cooking. (I also recognize your username, so I’m out.)
Live animal regulations are like seatbelts, they don’t prevent a crash, they just hopefully mitigate injury.
They’re there in case someone doesn’t prepare it correctly.
But if everyone prepared it correctly, no one would get the parasites.
They’re the emergency parachute. It’s stupid to not bring one, but if everything goes right it’s not necessary.
Then block me so you stop replying and I stop having to reply because misinformation about food safety is a big enough deal I feel obligated.
Trichinosis is all but gone in the USA, you can eat pork chops rare here
https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/trichinellosis/epi.html
What you’re doing is like telling people polio is cured so they don’t need vaccines…
The reason it’s so rare is people finally stopped eating undercooked pork.
If you start eating raw pork, you’re basically playing Russian roulette. Do it enough and you will get the bad result.
Not as a general rule. This might be the case in the US, but in Germany raw pork is a pretty normal thing to eat (“Mett”), and it’s safe.
It’s safe because of food regulations though…
https://www.tastingtable.com/1466338/germany-raw-pork-sandwich-explained/
You can kill it with heat or cold, they kill it with cold, and keep it cold.
Like. People eat sushi all the time, that doesn’t mean you can buy a fish from the grocery store and eat it raw, it hasn’t been specifically prepared so it’s safe.
Please stop talking about food safety
You said earlier:
This is a blatant lie, as seen by the example of people eating raw meat and NOT getting sick.
Yes, of course. Did I say anything different?
Please take a look in the mirror.
Mett is raw pork like a raw unfrozen fish from a fish market is sushi…
I literally just linked you an article explaining that and how the only reason it’s safe is strict regulations.
Regulations that are specific to mett and doesn’t make all pork safe.
I just can’t anymore tho, hopefully no one takes your advice.
My guy, do you notice how you have to invert the comparison for it to make sense? Mett is raw pork. You said raw pork can’t be eaten safely. Mett can be eaten safely. It’s not that hard to understand - with proper regulations, raw pork is safe to eat.
The USDA and FDA, which both lean conservative in their recommendations, consider whole cuts of pork safe down to 145F (roughly equivalent to cooked to medium):
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2011/05/25/cooking-meat-check-new-recommended-temperatures
https://www.fda.gov/media/107000/download
This has been the case for over a decade. Pork should be cooked but the old 160F recommendations have been gone for a long time now because commercial pork is relatively safe.
Also note that this is the one-minute pasteurization temp; meat can be held at a lower temperature for longer to render it safe.
There’s literally someone in this thread right now saying you can eat raw pork in America without worry…
145 is still a limit people need to follow, lots of people don’t.
The correct response to that is to provide the actual guidelines based on actual data, not to fearmonger while quoting lines referencing wild game.
A huge part of why commercial pork is safe – that you’re consistently leaving out – were major changes to how livestock are raised. Trichinosis transmission in pigs is primarily caused by the consumption of infected meat; US standards were changed to more strictly control what’s fed to pigs, which led to the decreased risk. The risk remains in wild boar because they’re omnivores that will scavenge whatever they can find.
145 isn’t a hard limit. It’s the recommended holding temperature for one minute.